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Date:         Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:04:48 -0600
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: VERY UNUSUAL REQUEST  (long)
Comments: To: thoma@MINDSPRING.COM
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I think if you want accelerated aging you should talking to manufacturers making steel track sections for Caterpillar tractors, breaker points for street drop rams, bits for drilling augers, oil well drills, scaling hammers, teeth for asphalt rippers, drill bits, rotor hammer drills and the such. Some of your applications could fall in between Carbide and Heat Treated steel for circular say blades, lathe chips etc. Another high volume application is wire rope, chain, roller chain, gears and sprockets, rotary mower blade, plow shares. All of these parts are used in the most severe environments and the current manufactures have open minds about making longer life parts. (if they arent made in China) I'd certainly stick with products that are not life threatening in failure circumstances. Dealing with attorneys is the fastest route to self fornication. Patents are cheap, marketing is expensive. I'd suggest that you try Spotnails, Speedfast, Senco, Duo-fast, Paslode stapling equipment companies they have a hell of a problem with driver blades and they buy big volume. Best of luck with your endeavors.

Stan Wilder, been there done that on patents, "if broken promises were nickles I'd have several boxcars full." Thats a Stan wilder quote.

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:57:59 -0800 Mark Thoma <thoma@MINDSPRING.COM> writes: > Hey all, > > This is a strange one. Got a buddy who owns the patent rights, > working models, prototypes, etc. of a pretty revolutionary heat > treating process/equipment. Said process makes steel parts > approximately 30% stronger than conventional heat treating. Several > large automotive/industrial parts manufacturer are testing the > process but because of liability concerns that testing will probably > take several years and hundreds of thousands if not millions of > cycles before the lawyers sign off on using it in production. So > tonight he and I were brainstorming and I said "you know what you > need is an enviroment where product liability is probably not a big > concern and wear is accelerated. something like a race car > enviroment." he thought that sounded pretty good but countered "the > parts would have to be pre-machining. i.e. find a manufacturer who > was willing to send us a couple of axles or crankshafts or springs > or torsion bars, etc that would normally have a maximum life of only > a couple of races before breaking." that way the manufacturer would > quickly be able to find out just how good (or not good) the process > is. > So here's the deal fellow listees. Any of you have any contacts in > the hi-performance automotive manufacturing sector who may be > interested in building really strong parts for the race enviroment? > > Thank you in advance. > > Mark Thoma > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.


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