Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:15:43 -0800
Reply-To: steve@SYNCRO.ORG
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Steve Schwenk <steve@SYNCRO.ORG>
Subject: Re: vanagon springs - my only rebuttal
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Gee, ron, how stupid do you think people are. This is why i say you are
slick slimy snake. You deny in one post what you said in your prior
post and hope people are too stupid to notice. You live in a world of
half-truths and slick word games.
The Bus Despot: Where the customer is always wrong and and you get your
stuff when they feel like it, if yer lucky.
Go VANAGAIN.COM !!!
steve@syncro.org wrote:
>
> Ron does not know a damn thing about my springs. His attempt to
> > characterize them is complete fiction, made up out of thin air.
>
> Funny, I didn't characterize them at all. In fact I didn't say
> ANYTHING
> about Steve's springs whatsoever, other than noting that they were
> for
> Syncro's (unlike mine), and that they raise the vehicle whereas mine
> lower
> it. (And even then I added that raising the vehicle was a desirable
> feature
> for many Syncro owners, so if anything I _complimented_ his
> springs.) In
> fact, I have even sent a couple of customers to him who wanted Syncro
>
> springs, since I don't carry them. (Never again!) It would have
> been
> absurd for me to compare my springs to Steve's. Steve's springs are
> for
> Syncros and raise the vehicle. Mine don't fit Syncros, and they lower
> the
> vehicle. Apples and oranges. They can't even be used on the same
> vehicle!
>
> While I said nothing negative about Steve or his springs, Steve
> called me a
> "slimy snake," a weasel, questioned my business ethics, and said that
> my
> Boge springs "will not deliver anywhere near as fine a ride as mine"
> and
> "are harsh and diminish travel." How would he know that, considering
> that
> he doesn't have a pair? (I'm sure he will quote the old stand-by,
> "unnamed
> sources," or say he "tried" them on an unnamed van, right?) The real
> truth
> is that my springs have received good press on this List. It's in
> the
> archives; see for yourself.
>
> > There was a time on this list where he almost got permanently
> booted
> > because of his business ethics. That was back when he was
> threatening
> > to sue people if they dared speak criticism about his business.
> Note
> > that he is no longer a recommended vendor on vanagon.com.
>
> That's completely untrue. It simply never happened. In fact I'm one
> of the
> oldest contributors to the list - since way back when the Vanagon,
> Type 2,
> Vintage Bus, and Eurovan lists were a single list. And as for not
> being
> mentioned as a "recommended vendor" on the Vanagon.com site, I'm in
> good
> company - along with such venerable list members such as Boston Bob,
> Darrell
> Boehler, AA Transaxle, Frank Condelli, Dennis Haynes, The Skylight
> Guy, and
> others. We are all, however, listed on the site as aftermarket VW
> parts
> vendors. (Ironically, Steve Schwenk isn't listed there. :-)
>
> So, indeed, one of us is less than honest. One of us is fabricating
> lies
> and slamming someone else's product and character for his own
> personal
> gain.
>
> You decide who that is.
>
> - Ron Salmon
> The Bus Depot, Inc.
> (215) 234-VWVW
> www.busdepot.com
>
> p.s. This is not the first time Steve Schwenk's gotten into a
> fighting
> match with another member of this list (or even the second or third,
> for
> that matter). I've noticed that he always likes to have the last
> word, and
> will certainly respond with a new spate of accusations, attacks,
> falsehoods,
> and half-truths. I'm going to stop this here on my end, and not
> respond
> further to him. Hopefully that will help this ridiculous thread die a
> quick
> and undignified death. Please do not take my future lack of response
> to
> lend credence to anything that he says. I'm just not going to let him
> drag
> me any further into the mud with him. I've cleared my name, as I
> felt I
> must, and that's it.
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