Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:41:48 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject: Re: looking for a CA smog legal conversion that is a clean install
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Tony,
Repeat after me (the whole list can join in) 'Every motor in a Vanagon is a
compromise' - yes every one!
I won't go into the non-CARB ability of the South African stuff as you are
not interested in an I4 conversion of this nature. Keeping the wasserboxer
is a compromise for reliability and our 15 degree I4 kit will require engine
cover modifications.
Any kit is CARB legal if you follow the [paraphrased] rules: A CARB / EPA
approved engine from a California Approved car that is as old or newer than
the vehicle that it is going into (i.e. 1995 CA Legal Golf into a 1984
Vanagon) with all the smog gear in place and functioning as it was in the
original vehicle.
To answer the other half of your question in a nut shell - there is no
direct plug in kit for a 1.8T or a VR6 for your Vanagon. The 1.8T is the
only one that will fit without modifying your engine cover if you mount it
at 50 degrees using Diesel components and this is if you are lucky enough to
find an older style 1.8T blocks originally from a manual transmission
vehicle.
We are working on a 1998 VR6 motor for a fellow's Syncro DoKa and will have
a kit available soon for the VR6 to mount this motor. I would sooner mount
a VR6 than a 1.8T for the simple reason of air-intake / intercooler plumbing
and expense of the motor and the electrical associated with the motor. The
VR6 cost 3500 USD from Ron's Parts Inc and the kit will be 'by the hour' for
mounting it into his Syncro with an estimate of at least 30 to 35h of my
time start to finish plus expenses like fuel line, water hoses, steel,
adapter plate and flywheel etc. I think a real world end bill for this
fellow will be in the 7000 USD neighbourhood - a far cry more than a 2.0L I4
kit from anyone! BTW you will need to modify the engine cover for a VR6 ;)
Unless you have lots of money that you want to throw at your van, the exotic
stuff is simply that, exotic stuff - it is all certainly doable and with the
proper time and budget for the project it is a very serviceable and
professional looking installation.
I am installing a 1Z TDI into my Syncro DoKa (at 15 degrees) and this is
after a lot of careful collecting of a lot of parts over the past few years.
Thank God that don't have to pay myself to do the installation as I would
never be able to afford it! :)
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
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Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Smola, Tony
Sent: March 4, 2002 9:18 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: looking for a CA smog legal conversion that is a clean install
I've been looking at everyones pictures of their conversions......not really
a clean install...although I commend the effort
The closest clean install appears to be the Tiico South African......but I
would like either a 1.8T or a VR6, but does the VR6 fit under the
lid?....looking for broad torque and firm horsepower band, would eventually
install a 5 spd w/ 0.71 fifth overdrive.
Or should I bump the wasserboxer up in displacement and compression ratio
and keep it somewhat stock....hmmmm....no 5 spd w. this one
Malibu Tony 1.9L 5 degrees BTDC