Date:         Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:01:53 -0500
Reply-To:     "John P. Flaherty" <jflahert@MAINE.RR.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "John P. Flaherty" <jflahert@MAINE.RR.COM>
Subject:      Re: EuroVans have more passenger room
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I don't disagree with your measurements, but I have to disagree in terms of
usable space. I've sat behind the wheel of Eurovans. My head was crushed up
againt the roof, to the point I couldn't hold it up straight. My legs were
forced off to the side at such an angle that it would be impossible for me
to operate the pedals. In short, there is no way that I could operate this
vehicle.

My loafs I drove without modification. My vanagon I could drive unmodified,
but not comfortably. I bent the stops out of the way on the driver's seat so
it goes back further, and relocated the door grab handle to a position
immediately below the window. These mods make my vanagon the most
comfortable vehicle I've ever driven. Because of the lack of headroom, I
don't think I could modify a Eurovan to be comfortable.

For what its worth, I don't fit well in most SUVs either. Big on the
outside, poor use of space on the inside. In fact, to my knowlege, there is
no car being made today that I fit in comfortably. They all seem to be
getting smaller. I fit much better in my son's 86 Jetta than in my buddy's
2000. Not sure about modern minivans or pickups.

Oh well, guess I just have to keep that vanagon alive.

John Flaherty
Portland, Maine
'84 GL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Lashley" <ThingGuy@AOL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:53 PM
Subject: EuroVans have more passenger room


> I don't have a Vanagon and EuroVan here to compare, but I have the floor
mats.
>
> Vanagon GL passenger area = 50 1/8" long x 61 1/4 wide
> EuroVan Weekender = 49 1/4" long x 61 7/8 W (GLS model is 53"L x 62 1/4"
W)
> EuroVan Camper = 59 3/8" long x 44 1/4" W (this has cabinets)
>
> I don't have a Vanagon Westy mat here, or I could compare it directly with
> the EuroVan Camper.
>
> measurements are taken from the step down between the front seats, to the
> front bottom on the rear seat.
>
> My conclusion is the EuroVan has about the same or more passenger room
than
> the Vanagon.
>
> Steve Lashley
> SKL Enterprises Inc.
> http://EuroCampers.com
> 636-797-9015
> 636-789-2127 fax