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Date:         Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:17:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Derek Drew <derekdrew@RCN.COM>
Subject:      Group Purchase Announcement Tireloc Beadlockers
Comments: To: Syncro@onelist.com
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<html> We are currently pushing through the details of a group purchase for Tireloc beadlockers for vehicles that want the capability to go off-road at low inflation pressures with lower risk of tire damage, wheel damage, and tires flying off wheels. <br> <br> Tirelocs are things that<br> <br> 1. Hold your tire on the rim securely even when aired down so that it will not come off the rim and so dirt and mud will be less likely to get into the bead seal area creating slow leaks.<br> <br> 2. Make a super tough little innertube around your wheel that absorbs impacts and so protects your wheel from damaging impacts when driving fast through muddy wet boulder fields in an aired down situation. With a tireloc you are much less likely to bend or break a rim. <br> <br> If you would like to participate, please send me an email to get on the list. There is a size for both 15&quot; SA wheels and 16&quot; wheels we are working on. <br> <br> More details here: <br> <br> <font size=3>ABOUT TIRELOC BEADLOCKERS<br> <br> I originally felt that I wanted a classical American beadlocker where a metal or special ring squeezes the tire and holds it tight against your rim.<br> <br> I wanted this because in aired down situations I kept losing my tires off the van. From long use, I discovered that you need to keep your psi up around 18 in order to have a hope of keeping the tires on and even then sometimes the tire would come off in slushy muddy snow covered nasty bolder fields. Off-roaders sometimes speak of driving around at 8psi but I can assure you you cannot do this with your Vanagon under normal circumstances, at least not without beadlockers. Possibly they do this in snow or sand and I am driving through muddy boulder fields and that's why there is a difference in psi limits.<br> <br> In any case, previously it seemed to me that metal style or ring style beadlockers would be a superior solution than what I derisively called the &quot;plastic bag&quot; solution of the tireloc, which sounded experimental in nature.<br> <br> Since then I have had a complete change of heart. In particular, after about 10 hours or reading and research I was astounded to learn that traditional beadlockers are unsafe, illegal, leak, require constant maintenance, and will get you a ticket from the police in many states. Moreover, the beadlocker screws unscrew themselves over time and your wheel eventually can fly off on the highway and that they are constantly in need of retightening and you still often cannot be sure of eliminating all the leaks. You can see my short report on this finding here: <br> <br> </font><font size=3 color="#0000FF"><u><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/8492" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/8492</a></u></font><font size=3> <br> <br> For more information about the tireloc, see:<br> <br> <a href="http://www.tireloc.com/" eudora="autourl">www.tireloc.com</a><br> <br> </font><font size=3 color="#0000FF"><u><a href="http://www.4wdonline.com/Wheels/Tireloc.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.4wdonline.com/Wheels/Tireloc.</a><a href="http://www.4wdonline.com/Wheels/Tireloc.html" eudora="autourl">html</a></u></font><font size=3> <br> <br> </font><font size=3 color="#0000FF"><u><a href="http://www.jdsoffroad.com/install/TireLoc-Install.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.jdsoffroad.com/install/TireLoc-Install.</a><a href="http://www.jdsoffroad.com/install/TireLoc-Install.htm" eudora="autourl">htm</a></u></font><font size=3> <br> <br> Basically, the tireloc has none of the disadvantages of a traditional beadlocker, and has the advantages that it is a smaller inner inflated tire, essentially, so it offers double protection against smashing impacts to your wheel that might bend a rim of a vehicle not having a tireloc. I have bent Alloy rims, so this is a particular concern of mine.<br> <br> After thinking this over, I have come to the view that the quality the tireloc offers of protecting your rim may be as important or more important than its role as a beadlocker. The tireloc is so tough, that for a short distance, you can actually drive on the tireloc alone as your only source of inflation, although, of course, your VC won't like it.<br> <br> In any case, I am pooling buying power for these things in order to reduce the price for everyone so anyone who wants one at the lowest possible cost should email me saying they want to participate and I will put you on a list. <br> <br> I think these things run about $170 per wheel without any discount so the goal is to try to push the cost down from there to as low as we can get it. The discount is now at 15% and counting.<br> </font><br>

<font size=3>________________________________________________________<br> Derek Drew&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; New York, NY &amp; Washington, DC<br> derekdrew@rcn.com<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 212-580-6486<br> Email me for viscous couplings<br> '90 Syncro Westfalia... <br> ...seen off-road at <br> <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/Syncro_Madness_Area.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/Syncro_Madness_Area.htm</a><br> Note: most valuable Vanagon sites on the planet (for owners) are:<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon" eudora="autourl">http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon</a><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/" eudora="autourl">http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/</a><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro</a> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.vanagon.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.vanagon.com</a> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.syncro.org/" eudora="autourl">http://www.syncro.org</a> <br> All About 16&quot; Wheels And The CV-900.htm<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.</a><a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm" eudora="autourl">htm<br> </a>My syncro list postings consolidated<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/messagesearch?query=212-580-6486" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/messagesearch?query=212-580-6486</a><br> My refrigerator article:&nbsp; <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/Refrigerator/Reefer_Madness.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/Refrigerator/Reefer_Madness.htm</a><br> My article that shows how to deal with insurance companies: <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/auto-insurance-madness.html" eudora="autourl">http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/auto-insurance-madness.html</a><br> To view Wolfgang's incredibly informative wheel article<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/fitbigtiresonvanagon.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/fitbigtiresonvanagon.htm</a> <br> To view Tim Smith's incredibly useful gearing calculator<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/syncrotireandgearratios.xls" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/syncrotireandgearratios.xls</a> <br> To view two articles about how to think about improving your gears at transmission rebuild time<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7207" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7207</a><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7221" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7221</a><br> To view an overview article about choices in larger sized tires see<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/11535" eudora="autourl"><font size=3 color="#0000FF"><u>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/11535</a></u></font><font size=3> <br> To view some 16&quot; Trailing Arms that enable much larger tires see<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncro-org/files/Wheels,%20Tires%20%26%20Gearing/Wheel%20%26%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncro-org/files/Wheels%2C%20Tires%20%26%20Gearing/Wheel%20%26%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg</a><br> To view the CV900, the only perfect 16&quot; rim for T3 Vanagon and Syncro see<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/images/perfectwheel16s.jpg" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/images/perfectwheel16s.jpg</a> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/images/perfect16wheel.jpg" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/images/perfect16wheel.jpg</a><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Articles about choosing a 16&quot; wheel and this CV900 model:<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/9294" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/9294</a><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/8672" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/8672</a><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/9209" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/9209</a><br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/10563" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/10563</a><br> My article about belt protectors and CV joint protectors<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/6112" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/6112</a><br> SYNCRO OWNERS WHO DRIVE OFF THE ROAD:<br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You only get to change your ring and pinions once every 10 or 20 years <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; because that's how long the average syncro transmission goes before <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; its next rebuild. Start planning for higher number ring and pinion sets NOW!</font></html>


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