Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:04:30 -0600
Reply-To: andrewbell <andrewbell@QWEST.NET>
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From: andrewbell <andrewbell@QWEST.NET>
Subject: Re: Body Shop question
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I had a Van painted with Valspar paint a few years ago. The paint matched
the best and looked the nicest on tests, but in real life it reacted to the
VW paint and became cloudy. No buffing could get it out - a very hard
lesson to learn as I could not re-paint the Van and was always bummed with
the appearance.
AB
"Terry K." wrote:
> Mark,
>
> White is one of the cheapest color's----
>
> No pigment---or very little.
>
> Red is the most expensive--especially Porsche red----Many, Many
> denaro's.
>
> My advise to anyone who wants a long lasting paint job, is to get the
> vehicle base coat / clear coated, with a good quality paint.
>
> (IMPHO PPG the best, Dupont the worst)
>
> The advantage of the clear coat is to keep the UV off the color, or
> pigments----
>
> White is an easy color to maintain, and the most resonable to have done.
> ( plus it hides allot of evil's---)
>
> Later,
>
> Terry
>
> E-mail message
>
> From: drillock@earthlink.net (mark drillock) Date: Sat, Mar 16, 2002,
> 8:41pm (CST-2) To: CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET (Terry K.) Cc:
> vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Body Shop question
> Terry, what about a repaint of a white Westy? Does cheaper white paint
> last any better?
> Mark
> 82 White Westy, needs paint
> "Terry K." wrote:
> "I remember it this way---
> I'll paint any car any color--$29.95
> In at nine out by five---
> Won't chip fade peel or crack"---
> The Uncle Earl way----what a joke---
> The price of the repair work, along with refinishing depends on how high
> of quality you demand---
> Paint the van with straight enamel ----cheapest ( zero color retention )
> Paint the van with acrylic enamel---better, but figure on a couple of
> years on the fading routine
> Paint the Van with a modified enamel / urethane real good color
> retention, and figure on 5 to 7 years of good color hold out.
> Paint the van with a full blown urethane----figure on going through 2 or
> 3 engines before the color goes bye, bye.
> Don't sand blast the Van, much too aggressive--try some sort of media
> blasting, with crushed walnuts or some other gentler to the metal type
> product.
> This will make for less surface prep on the other end---
> One last thought---be sure to have the shop wherever you take the
> vehicle in question to be refinished, lay a coat of self etching primer,
> over the area to be painted, and then another coat of filling primer
> over that----this will guarantee all the older paint, and rust is sealed
> off good.
> Now the price---lower 1/4th of the van-----
> So your talking about from the body line just above the wheels--all the
> way around or the line above the door handles?
> If it's above the door handles--your a little short on the denaro's
> --just above the wheels--maybe $900.00.
> Tough call----
> Later,
> Terry
> " The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of the
> good deal is gone"---
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