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Date:         Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:05:51 -0800
Reply-To:     Mark Mages <wasserbox@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Mark Mages <wasserbox@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Speaker Wire Polarity?
Comments: cc: The Bus Depot <vanagon@BUSDEPOT.COM>
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> You can't blow anything up, but if you hook one > speaker up backwards > compared to the other(s) they will be out of phase, > which will destroy the > stereo image and reduce bass performance. Usually

Yup - you will wonder why you spent $$$ on a bigger / better speaker to have it sound worse. In my experience with VW radios, the + is usually a colored wire, and the ground is brown. The + generally will have a larger connector than the -

> > > PS - Will a 5.25" speaker produce better or more > sound than a 4" speaker > > given the same input? > > All things being equal, a larger woofer will > generally produce deeper bass. > But this assumes that you are comparing two speakers > that are precisely > identical in all other respects. A good quality 4" > speaker is likely to > outperform a cheapo 5.25" speaker. >

Mostly true. It depends on your definition of "cheapo". If by cheapo you mean Audiovox / Kmart & wal-mart speakers, than absolutely. If you define cheapo as inexpensive, than it is not necessarily true. Car audio is just like car parts. What is sold under a company name is not necessarily manufactured by that company. For example - Febi manufactures a lot of VW suspension parts. Parts sold by Febi directly (or through a reseller like Ron) to you are going to be substantially cheaper than parts sold to VW, stamped with the VW label and part no. and sold to you from the back of a dealership.

Car audio works generally the same way. A seller (Infinity, JBL) sends a set of specifications out to bid from actual manufacturers. The low bidder wins and produces the speakers with an Infinity label, and you pay out the nose for a label. You can generally get the exact same speaker direct from the manufacturer minus the fancy packaging for a lot less (given you figure out who they are).

The guys in retail will of course push the highest dollar speaker as the best because the highest dollar means the highest commission and the highest revenue for the store. They will also tell you that is what they use, and they will use it because they get it at store cost plus X. The mark-up on car audio is almost as bad as jewelry.

That said - as long as it is not an extremely cheapo speaker (i.e. paper-cone woofer) a 5 1/4 speaker will always outperform a 4" speaker. You want to look for something with a polypro cone and a preferrably separate tweeter (labeled as 2-way) at least for rear speakers. You will be amazed at the difference. A 4" speaker is pretty much incapable of producing the same low-end fill as a 5.25. And low-end fill is what the Vanagon is lacking with stock speakers.

I am not saying that Infinity or JBL suck (I have owned both) but I have gotten the same or better performance for a fraction of the cost out of companies like NXS, Pyle and Boss Audio.

My .02 :)

Mark

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