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Date:         Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:46:33 -0800
Reply-To:     David Jaffe <orhiker1@ATTBI.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Jaffe <orhiker1@ATTBI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Displacement Efficiency etc and the half-Lilley
Comments: To: FrankGRUN@AOL.COM
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So the question then remains: has *anyone* done *anything* even remotely objective to test the half-lilley mods?

Would someone perhaps do Frank's suggestion of 30-70mph times in 4th gear & post that?

I already have the 1.4 rockers, chip & ECU, K&N, and am eyeing a freer exhaust, but haven't installed them yet - not scared, I'm putting them in my AW once I get it. If I got nothing or an actual power LOSS, I'd have to open a vein! (I mean, uh, save up for an I4...)

I also don't recall people comparing their before/after mileage. Mick K, others - want to chime in here?

Thanks,

David Jaffe 1986 Syncro West'faux'lia (for sale) 1982 Diesel -> I4 Westy (for sale soon) 1990 Syncro Adventurewagen (picking it up in a couple of weeks!) 1997 Passat TDI Portland, Oregon

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Frank Grunthaner Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:24 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Re :On Longevity, Displacement Efficiency and Technology in Conversions

In a message dated 3/26/02 7:51:37 PM, bostneng@FCL-US.NET writes:

<< Also the seat of the pants as a way to test means almost nothing when you have your ego sitting next to you in the passenger seat prodding you on. yah that was better sure it was. >>

Boston Bob,

Very well said! The difference between the ego and the ID is sometimes hard to fathom. When you have so much invested (cash, time and your best effort) the numbers are always sobering and sometimes exhilarating. Unfortunately many can't resist the desire to share their pain with others with exaggerated performance claims that lead those others down the same path. I painfully recall the mileage improvements in which I took my college transportation from 18 on the highway to 15.8. Was never able to fully recover to the stock value with the thickness of my wallet at the time.

And the additional cost of Preparation H when SWMBO was done with me!

Thanks for wading through that lengthy missive and keep up the work on the bench. The truth is always in the numbers.

Frank Grunthaner


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