VANAGON archives -- March 2002, week 5 (#193)

Date:         Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:23:11 -0800
Reply-To:     phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Air Conditioner
In-Reply-To:  <20020330.220212.-299569.14.wilden1@juno.com>
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But what if you can make your own Ice for short trips?
Did you check out this link:
http://www.swampy.net/im30.html
It has a BIG separate Igloo cooler that it pipes cool
water from. That cooler looks like it holds 10 gallons
of ice.
THey quote:
" a 48 quart Ice Chest filled with ice will give from
4 to 5 hours of cooling. The water contained in your
Ice Chest is cooled by ice or ice substitutes like
reusable Freeze Packs which are available in many
local stores in most areas. Another great feature is
that you can always get cooler air from an IceStrMystr
than a standard Evaporative Cooler, even after the ice
melts. This is posible because of the two stage
cooling process. A fully charged 105 amp hour deep
cycle battery should last from 8 to 12 hours on low or
medium speeds without charging."





--- Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> At a $1.29 a bag you could pay for a good Toyota in
> a month of driving in
> Texas when we get 30 consecutive days over 100 f.
> I always try to include that little (f) when I give
> temperatures cause
> the Canadians are scared that Texas is hell.
>
> Stan
>
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:40:48 -0800 mike
> <mwmiller@CWNET.COM> writes:
> > Probably work great but stopping every 30-40
> minutes for more ice
> > would get
> > to be a drag pretty quickly I think.
> >
> > Mike
> > :>)
> >
> > > From: phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
> > > Reply-To: phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
> > > Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:55:49 -0800
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: Re: Air Conditioner
> > >
> > > Has anyone heard of these ice assisted
> evaporating AC
> > > units? They plug into your cigarette lighter and
> they
> > > say it only needs to be refilled with ice every
> 30-40
> > > minutes for maximim cooling.
> > >
> > > http://www.swampy.net/icemystr.html
> > > http://www.swampy.net/im30.html
> > >
> > > Snake Oil or??
> > >
> > > Phil84' Westy Tiico (The Millenium Falcon)
> > > 60' Morris Mini1340CC
> > > 84' Westfalia Wolfsburg edition--FOR SALE-SE
> > > VENDE!!!!!!(Florida Title/2nd owner)
> > > AC, PS, 4spd. Super clean interior, Captains
> chairs,
> > > rare removeable center bench seat for 6
> passenger
> > > capability. Body has some rusty seams
> > > Rolling Chassis-(Has NO engine)-Perfect for a
> > > conversion project!!! Tiico? Subaru?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM> wrote:
> > >> Back in the early sixties Chrysler came out
> with
> > >> their electronic
> > >> ignition, a turbine car that ran on Wesson oil
> or
> > >> anything clean enough
> > >> not to clog the injectors. Ford came out with
> > >> Overhead can 427 engines
> > >> and GM was experimenting with an Automotive AC
> unit
> > >> that cooked the Freon
> > >> in/on/around/near the Exhaust manifold and
> powered
> > >> the required heat to
> > >> force the Freon gas through the system. Problem
> was
> > >> the Freon got to over
> > >> 600 degrees in about fifteen minutes and the
> > >> pressures became
> > >> extraordinary. The extreme pressure literally
> cut
> > >> the orifices out of the
> > >> regulators and exploded the condenser and
> > >> evaporators. They continued
> > >> working on the system until 1965 to be
> installed on
> > >> the newly released
> > >> Toronado. The first Toronado that came through
> the
> > >> dealership I was
> > >> working with had appendages cast into the
> exhaust
> > >> manifolds to mount this
> > >> system but the innovative system had been
> abandoned
> > >> by release time.
> > >> So there have been a lot of people working on a
> zero
> > >> horsepower AC unit
> > >> for many years.
> > >>
> > >> Stan Wilder
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:18:40 +0800 David
> Wilhite
> > >> <dnmwilhite@EARTHLINK.NET> writes:
> > >>> I use the hang in window air conditioner on my
> van
> > >> when camping
> > >>> during the summer myself, but have always been
> > >> thinking of other
> > >>> solutions.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was wondering if anybody has considered the
> > >> following method.
> > >>> Install an AC motor in the engine bay with a
> belt
> > >> going to the
> > >>> compressor.  Put a double clutch on the
> vehicle
> > >> air conditioner
> > >>> compressor to handle the belt from the AC
> motor
> > >> and the engine.  Use
> > >>> a transformer/invertor to change the 120 VAC
> to 12
> > >> VDC to run the
> > >>> interior air conditioner duct fan and the fan
> up
> > >> front behind the
> > >>> radiator.  This would be ideal, because there
> > >> would be no
> > >>> modifications to the vanagon body itself and
> no
> > >> appreciable space
> > >>> would be used.
> > >>>
> > >>> I haven't researched how much horsepower the
> air
> > >> conditioner
> > >>> compressor uses or if a double clutch unit is
> > >> available.  My
> > >>> thinking is that these would be the two hang
> ups
> > >> for following
> > >>> through on this idea.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts?
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 86' Syncro GL (for sale)
> > >>> 84' Subaruvanagon Westy
> > >>> 01' KLR650
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
>
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