Date:         Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:11:10 -0800
Reply-To:     gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      unofficial ebay poll, the unofficial results  5 neutrals
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unofficial ebay poll, the unofficial results
"Which side are you on boys, aya which side are you
on"
I am posting the result in the raw form as they came
to me.   gary
I guess.  That pretty much generalizes it.

gary hradek <hradek@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Brian,
>      If you will not say yes or no in a generals
>sense I will put you in the neutral slot?
>       thanks gary
>--- WVVW <wvveedub@netscape.net> wrote:
>> If it's your's, YES.  If it's just something you
>> found, NO.
>> --
>> Brian
>> '85 Vanagon 7-passenger GL
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Brian
'85 Vanagon 7-passenger GL
          I think the referral only needs to be made
when it is something that
you
wouldn't find in a normal search for "Vanagon" items
or if it is a
unique
Vanagon item. If it was something really unique, I
wouldn't post it to
the
list, I would buy it first, then post.;>). The person
posting the
messages
needs to determine the usefulness of the post by the
responses he
receives.
If there is no interest, they won't continue to post
them. Ebay posts
typically don't interest me, since I have saved
searches for various
items
I am looking for in My ebay page, but every once in a
while, there is
something unique that I am glad someone pointed me
toward.

Clear as mud? :>)

Tim
Re: POLLING ALL LISTMEMBERS okay so far I check my
vanagon mail more than I checkMVAone@aol.com gary

I stand by what I wrote.

If this was a request  from Tom, state that. You
didn't, and it's none
of
your business.

And yes, you can put me down in the neutral catagory.
This list has
bigger
problems than stupid ebay listings.

tim happily in san jose


>From: gary hradek <hradek@yahoo.com>
>To: Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: POLLING ALL LISTMEMBERS
>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 11:26:49 -0800 (PST)
>
>Tim, Tim, Tim,
>              I think you have been living in san
jose
>too long.   It was Tom's Suggestion to kick this
issue
>around.   Read his letter to me and if you have some
>input please feel free to try again, otherwise I will
>assume you are neutral on the issue.
>                     thanks gary
>Wil, Gary,
>
>Here's my reasoning for asking that ebay auctions not
>be posted to the
>list.
>
>I've participated in a few lists where the
>unrestrained 'flogging' of
>auctions has eventually become the principle topic of
>those lists.  If
>one wishes to 'advertise' their auction, there is
only
>one reason, and
>that reason is not altruistic.  One advertises in
>order to increase the
>bidding action.  Increasing the 'action' usually
>results in a higher
>price.
>
>Why not instaed post to the list that one has a
>certain item and the
>asking price is x dollars. That, IMHO, is a service
to
>the listmembers.
>Especially if one's price is somewhat less than one
>would expect to get
>on the open market.
>
>Guys, I'm starting a 20 unit semester in the AM.  I'm
>probably not
>going
>to watching *any* lists too closely for the next 12
>weeks or so. Go
>ahead and discuss it on list and see what the
>consenses is. P-mail me
>your read on the direction the other listmembers
would
>prefer.  If
>you'd
>like, one of you can set up a 'poll' on the
>vanagon@yahoogroups page.
>Please keep it on the 'spare' list though.  I already
>get enough
>comments about 'dual posting'. ;o)
>
>Regards,
>
>
>--- Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> > How about it's none of your business. You don't
run
> > the list, Tom does. If
> > he doesn't see it as a problem, leave it alone.
> >
> > tim in san jose
Gary,

Polls are not very valid or useful unless the question
asked is clear
in its meaning.  I am not clear as to what is meant by
your wording"

"how they feel about listmembers giving references to
SOMEONE ELSES
ebay listing."

On the list, I mostly see people passing on the
existence of ebay
auctions and ep.com listings related to vanagons
without any endorsements or
"references" - just on a "for your information" basis.
 Only
occasionally do I see someone give positive or
negative information about an item
that is listed, i.e., give it a reference.

So what do you mean when you ask this question?  What
is it that I am
supposed to say that I feel positively or negatively
about?

And what does it matter anyway?  If a person doesn't
want any mail
about ebay listings, all they have to do is set up a
filter that sends
items from Gerry which are about ebay into the trash,
not their inbox.  We
all can use filters to set up our own email empire and
only see what we
want.

Sam Walters
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