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Date:         Sun, 14 Apr 2002 12:45:41 +0200
Reply-To:     Raimund Feussner <rfeussner@GMX.DE>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Raimund Feussner <rfeussner@GMX.DE>
Subject:      Re: Big Alternators - take 2
Comments: To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
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"DIN" -> "D"eutsche "I"ndustrie "N"orm: ->german industry norm,

The opening for the radio is norm-sized in all german cars since the 70s, I think. So anything that has the outer dimensions will fit in all cars: Radios, alternator regulators, navigation systems, air vents etc.

Raimund

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Big Alternators - take 2

> Go for it! We all need double problems. (Mile Miller I don't want to > hear from you.) > What the hey is an existing DIN? > Stan Wilder > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 10:14:25 -0700 David Marshall > <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG> writes: > > The dual alternators that I have seen in Germany (have one set of > > brackets > > here and a complete setup sitting in Germany at this moment - both > > from a > > TD) have an external regulator. It is really kind of neat too - in > > stead of > > a radio existing in the DIN opening in the dash there is a knob and > > a set of > > LEDs. These LEDs show the voltage of the system and the knob is > > used to > > turn it up or down to compensate for the electrical load of the > > system. The > > dual alternator set-ups that I have are from Syncro T3s that were > > used by > > the German Army for radio communications. The alternators are 65A > > each and > > are just paralleled together. I think the key is to have external > > regulation to ensure that both are putting out the same voltage and > > not > > fighting against each other. A F@rd external voltage regulator will > > do the > > trick - there is a web site out there with a person doing this mod > > (single > > alt) in a Volvo with a Bosch Alternator. > > > > David Marshall > > > > Fast Forward Automotive Inc. > > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road > > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 > > > > http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca > > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 > > > > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions > > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation > > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On > > Behalf > > Of Alistair Bell > > Sent: April 13, 2002 7:34 AM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Big Alternators - take 2 > > > > > > slipped on the keyboard - sent partial message! > > > > What I meant to say in the garbled message was that the work done > > will be > > the same whether you use on or two alternators. > > > > Maybe David means that if your van's electrical system is drawing > > close to > > 110 amps then splitting the job between two (close to 55 amps each) > > is less > > "stressful" on each alternator. > > > > I can see an advantage to having 2 alternators (do they have to be > > matched? > > I don't think so) where one is dedicated to the house battery and > > the other > > to the starting battery. That way the charging/output > > characteristics of > > each alternator can be matched to the battery served. > > > > Mind you, you can get a honking big (externally regulated too) > > alternator > > that would supply all the electrons a vanagon owner could possibly > > need > > (mmm, I sound a bit like B. Gates musing over the need for more than > > 604kb > > of RAM), and they look like they are not much bigger than a 90A > > unit. Then > > you won't have the problem of mounting 2 alternators (maybe easy, > > maybe > > not). > > > > > > Alistair > > > > > > -- > > '82 Westy -> diesel converted to gas in '94 > > albell@uvic.ca > > http://homepage.mac.com/alistairbell/home/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on 13/04/2002 7:07 AM, Alistair Bell at albell@uvic.ca wrote: > > > > > have to be picky on this...work involved is same wheher one or > > two > > > alternators (110V*14V > > > > > > > > > on 12/04/2002 9:34 PM, David Marshall at vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG > > wrote: > > > > > >> The ultimate is to use two alternators - there are factory > > brackets for > > this > > >> and it is healthier for each alternator as they will be producing > > less > > >> current and not working as hard to achieve 110A > > >> > > >> David Marshall > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. >


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