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Date:         Mon, 8 Apr 2002 20:56:47 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon crash safety
Comments: To: jbrush@AROS.NET
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I'm OK with what I perceive as safety features of the Vanagon. My guardian angle only jumped off my shoulder twice that I can remember, first time when I laid a BMW motorcycle down at about 70 mph on soft grass and managed to use centrifugal force of the rear wheel to bring it upright without bike or me injury and then once in my MG Midget when I had to launch over a curb at about 30 mph in a rainstorm to avoid hitting six people walking around in my traffic lane supervising the changing of a spare tire. Guess we're all counting on our guardian angles when the discussion of nuts and bolts is over with.

Stan Wilder

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002 18:53:47 -0600 John Brush <jbrush@AROS.NET> writes: > >Not much in a Vanagon that can "break free". There is only the mass > of > >the front sheet metal to protect you. > > >Dave (still likes Vanagons, just knows who's going to win in > contest) -- > >Dave Carpenter > > > This thread has splintered into two different scenarios, and I guess > its > time to shout "uncle" from here. > > What denotes a win? Surviving, or one vehicle destroying the other? > There > are two things being talked about here as if they were one, so not > everyone is singing the same tune. > > If we are concerned about dying in a vanagon from a head on > collision, I > quit, because most head on collisions at freeway speeds will kill > just > about everyone in the front seats of all but the Excursions. If an > SUV is > considered so safe, we can escalate to an SUV vs an 18 Wheeler and > decide > that the SUV is not safe to drive either. > > Me, I have been referring to which vehicle will fall to pcs, and > which one > will mangle the SUV. I think most others are talking death, which > is > pointless. > > Probably time to end it. Dave just keeps saying he knows, so that > must be > it :-) > > John >

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