Date:         Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:44:14 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Oil question - synthetic, 'real' oil, etc
Comments: To: dhaynes@optonline.net
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The diesel engines in 18 wheelers with turbo chargers use the same oil
that you do.
The diesel engines in tug boats and shrimp boats with engines having
pistons 15" inches in diameter and a twenty foot long crankshafts run the
same oil that you do.
Giant earthmovers with twin blowers on them use the same engine oil as we
do.
The automobile is the easiest oil specification to meet.

Stan Wilder

On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:16:30 -0400 Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@optonline.net>
writes:
> I agree that these remarks are crap. Any oil today is better than
> just 5
> years ago. Using the proper application and a little care, modern
> engines simply do not wear out anymore. The parts fatigue from
> pounding
> or fail catastrophically. Usually due to failure of the lubrication
> or
> cooling system, but not simple wear. I have yet to see piston rings
> wear
> out that were not stuck due to carbon or seized due to
> overheating/melting. Synthetics eliminate the carbon-varnish
> problem.
> The improved viscosity index allows for thinner oils and still
> provide
> protection at higher temps. I've have used Mobil 1 for years. I have
> yet
> to do engine work except for heads and I have run some engines over
> 300K.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Stan Wilder
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:22 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Oil question - synthetic, 'real' oil, etc
>
> So far everything you're mechanic said is pure crap.
> Synthetics were developed to handle applications of very high
> temperature.
> I'm not going to try and give you everything thats in Motor Oil 101
> but
> if your mechanics lips seized that would be OK.
>
> Stan Wilder
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 17:47:06 -0400 Jon Sykes <jon.sykes@PS.GE.COM>
> writes:
> > I was talking to my mechanic the other day and we got onto oil.
> We
> > were
> > talking about VW vanagon diesel engines and he said he beleived
> the
> > engines
> > would get much higher milage between rebuilds if they used 'real'
> > oil.
> > Something about oil being taken out lower in the refining process
> > and not
> > using the additives to make up for what had been lost.  He said
> the
> > only
> > 'true' old-fashioned motor oil was a brand made by Kendall.
> Seemed
> > to make
> > sense in some way - oil does contain lots of additives which
> > essentially
> > provide the viscosity extent.
> >
> > He also mentioned synthetic oil and how it drains of moving parts
> > much
> > faster than regular oil.  Said he let an racing engine (that had
> > been run on
> > synthetic) sit for a while and when they restarted it it seized.
> >
> > ...any truth in any of this?
> >
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