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Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:45:11 -0700
Reply-To:     Jere Hawn <jbrschawn@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jere Hawn <jbrschawn@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: E-bay Scam Trend (Caveat emptor)
Comments: To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <20020415.112622.-329219.12.wilden1@juno.com>
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Stan

I concur, If I really want the item I'll place my serious bid in the last 20-30 seconds. But a number of times I have indicated interest early so the seller doesn't pull it off.

Jere

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Stan Wilder Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:26 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: E-bay Scam Trend (Caveat emptor)

For every type of business there are one hundred crooks out there working an angle. If you've heard of the group of Gypsies that work out of North Carolina painting barns with lime mixed with dairy based glue you know what I'm talking about. I had a Westy in my driveway that needed some body work and I was approached by one of these traveling Gypsies that said he'd do a bang up job for $550.00, I showed him my local bid for $270.00 and he said the other guy was some kind of crook because it was too cheap. There is one Marine dealer that has VDO gauges on their E-bay site at reasonable start bid prices but $15.00 packing and delivery costs. I sent them an E-mail asking if they'd accept actual shipping costs and they said they're refer it to someone within the organization. Never heard another word from them. I've sold a lot of computer books on E-bay that I start bidding on at $1.00 and have fixed rate shipping of $5.00, since the postage is about $3.00 I can make $3.00 on each transaction on books I'd be throwing away. Book values are from $29.00 to $100.00 but useless unless you're a computer programmer. The only way I buy on E-bay is to get the Going-Going-Gone screen and buy in the last ten minutes. I've never been high bidder doing it any other way.

Stan

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 07:46:39 -0700 DaveC <voicebox@DNAI.COM> writes: > >The event: I saw a pair of rear hatch struts and bid on them > >for $25 (volks > >cafe has them on special for $12.50 ea) and I was out bid, and the > sellers > >minimum was not reached. Auction finally ends and time passes (I'm > not > >watching the item) and I get this pmail saying that the item didn't > sell and > >was wondering if I would like to buy them. I said NO! not at $32 > > > >Learning Point: Seller have been known to set their minimum > selling price > >so high that the item will not sell and then they re-approach > buyers to see > >if they want to buy off-line at the higher price. Another tactic > that I > >seen used is that they bid against their own item under a different > name to > >drive the price up and when they win the then go the next highest > bidder to > >sell at an inflated price (off-line to boot) > > How do you know that these persons bid against themselves? Unless > someone squeals on them, how does this come to light? > > Dave > -- > Dave Carpenter > > Whatever you wish for me, > May you have twice as much. > > "Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I > think > we're not. In either case the idea is quite staggering." -- Arthur > C. > Clarke >

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