VANAGON archives -- April 2002, week 3 (#81)

Date:         Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:19:21 -0700
Reply-To:     phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: New Tiico engine Overheating-Problem solved!
In-Reply-To:  <AIEFIGCNNANNIHLNFBPEAEOBFFAA.vanagon@volkswagen.org>
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Thanks for the data David.
Unfortunatly, My gauge needle is still at "high".After
getting the engine hot, I stuck a home cooking
thermometer inside the coolant reservior to get a temp
reading of the coolant and it said 195F degrees. I
also pointed a "lazer thermometer heat gun"  at the
engine head and it read 185F degrees. I also pointed
the gun at the radiator and it read 140F at the
bottom. At the top of the radiator it read 85F, why is
this? Is radiator clogged up there? SORRY FOR NOT
HAVING CELCIUS DATA:)

Do I have a broken gauge?

Thanks

Phil






--- David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG> wrote:
> If the temp is running at around 100C then it makes
> no difference if you
> have an 80 or 87C t-stat.  Most I4s that I have seen
> run at or slightly
> above the LED - not a problem.
>
> David Marshall
>
> Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
> 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
> Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3
>
> http://www.fastforward.ca
> mailto:sales@fastforward.ca
> Phone: (250) 992 7775        FAX: (250) 992 1160
>
> - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions
> - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and
> Importation
> - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List
> [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of phil stanhope
> Sent: April 14, 2002 6:33 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: New Tiico engine Overheating-Problem
> solved!
>
>
> Mine does that also.
> Some how i dont think the stock vanagon gauge is
> calibrated to the tiico but im no expert. Id like to
> bypass and get a digital qauge. I am definatly
> changing my thermostat from an 87C to an 80C becouse
> im in Florida.  Maybe an oversized radiator would be
> the key or bigger fan blade/motor.
>
> Weell i Gotta make it to Blockbuster and return
> "Fear
> and Loathing in Las Vegas"
>
>
> --- Ki Hong <rean1m8r@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > curious... while we are on the topic of
> overheating
> > tiico engines,  how hot are peoples tiico engines
> > running?   mine runs fine on the highway(just over
> > the
> > mniddle white line) but 30 minutes of city driving
> > raises it up to the 3/4 mark on the gauge.  seems
> a
> > litte hot to me but was told by my mechanic that
> > this
> > is normal.
> >
> >
> > --- phil stanhope <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > After taking alot of green coolant showers I
> have
> > > finally fixed my overheating problem. It turns
> out
> > > the
> > > problem was exactly what all of you told me it
> > was,
> > > it
> > > was a big air bubble blocking was i think is the
> > > upper
> > > feed line to the radiator.  Thanks for all the
> > help.
> > > Thanks to Peter for fast delivery of my water
> > pump.
> > > He
> > > keeps parts like these on the shelf so we dont
> > have
> > > to
> > > wait for delivery from SA.
> > >
> > > If you are interested i wrote out what happened
> > > below.
> > >
> > > When i dicovered my Tiico was getting too hot i
> > got
> > > it
> > > home and started to trouble shoot.
> > > I bled the coolant system by jacking up the
> front
> > > end
> > > 15" and bleeding the rad. bleeder while reving
> > past
> > > 2000RPMs. I repeated this 2 times. Then I
> checked
> > > thermostat bt boiling it in water, it was fine.
> > Then
> > > i
> > > had Peter Fed-express me a new water pump and
> > > installed it. Even after all this the engine was
> > > still
> > > running too hot. So I jacked front end up TWO
> MORE
> > > times and then finally my westy goes.....BURP!
> and
> > > coolant started really flowing out of rad.
> > bleeder.
> > > I
> > > go for a drive and the guage is still at "hot"
> > THEN
> > > all of the sudden the needle DROPS! now the
> needle
> > > rides half way(normal) and my radiator works
> fine.
> > I
> > > pointed my heat gun at the engine head and it
> read
> > > 180F degrees so my guess this is normal safe
> > > opperating temp.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the help.
> > >
> > > Phil ***84' Westy Tiico "Millenium Falcon"
> > > ***84' Westfalia Wolfsburg edition GL--Rolling
> > > chassis(has NO engine)-FOR SALE/SE
> VENDE!!-Florida
> > > Title/2nd owner. AC, PS, 4spd. Deluxe Instrument
> > > panel(tach/digi-clock) Super clean
> > > interior/cabinets,
> > > all in good condition. captains chairs,
> removable
> > > bench seat for 6 passenger capability. 2
> > > tables/arms.
> > > Nice Curtains Body has rusty seams but none on
> top
> > > of
> > > front bumper. Nice Pop Top/Canvas. Sony Stereo.
> > > Could
> > > be perfect for a conversion project-Tiico?
> Subaru?
> > > ***60' Morris Mini1340CC(Also for sale)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
> > > > Dave Marshall seems to think it might be an
> air
> > > > bubble in the line.  Did you
> > > > follow proper bleed procedures?  if you get a
> > big
> > > > enough bubble in a high
> > > > spot it could stop the flow, I suppose.
> > > >
> > > > Let it get warm and open the bleed screw up in
> > the
> > > > radiator and see if you
> > > > get bubbles or fluid.
> > > >
> > > > Karl
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "phil stanhope" <napszeerf@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Karl Wolz" <wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: New Tiico engine Overheating
> HELP!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks but I didnt think of that(heater) I
> DID
> > > > take
> > > > > the top off and I aimed this high power
> > truckers
> > > > fan
> > > > > at it
> > > > > while driving home. This fan will blow
> itself
> > > over
> > > > if
> > > > > not fastened down...REALLY POWERFUL...kinda
> > > neat.
> > > > > I hope its not the water pump. I wonder
> where
> > > the
> > > > > T'stat is? Hummm..it be nice to have a
> manual!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@worldnet.att.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Correct.  If you're driving down the road,
> > > > you've
> > > > > > got airflow through the
> > > > > > rad.  Sounds like the t'stat is closed or
> > the
> > > > pump
> > > > > > ain't pumping.  When the
> > > > > > engine was hot, did the heater blow hot
> air?
>
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