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Date:         Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:51:17 -0400
Reply-To:     80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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From:         80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Utility rear bumpers ?
Comments: To: The Wilsons <coyote808@COX.NET>
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I bought www.Fastforward.ca 's Bush Bumper made out of 'Schedule 40' 1.5" OD drill casing and features a 2.0" trailer hitch receiver. It incorporates extremely heavy bumper arms that bolt to the frame - replacing the weak factory units. A thick stepping plate finishes off the top of this bumper, great for stepping on to put windsufers on the roof. Unfinished or Gloss Black. Fastforward can be reached at: Fast Forward Automotive Inc., 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road, Quesnel, BC, Canada, V2J 6Z3 Phone: (250) 992 7775, Fax: (250) 992 1160, email: sales@fastforward.ca

I have the fastforward bumper on my van and I like it a lot but i had a LOT of problems getting it from Fastforward

1) Terrible communication e-mail after e-mail call after call. Takes a multiple attempts from me to get an answer. n David if you would like to dispute this I can publish my phone bill and e-mails for the period in question. I am not the only one last week a listee was asking if fastforward was still in business because they could not contact fastforward either.

2) Shipping delays - Took weeks to get despite initial e- mails saying that they were a day or two away from being ready to ship. I almost missed being able to use a trailer to move because of it... it came the day before. and only because I insisted it being sent by courier. No offer to pay the increased shipping even though the delay was on their end.

3) Imperial vs. metric bolts. The hitch is supposed to have metric bolts, several were missing and the ones that were there were imperial and threaded as such... unlike the rest of the van which is metric. Lame "that's the they made this one" apology no offer to replace the product.

3) Not drilled for reverse / fog lamps which I ordered and were never sent... admittedly I was never charged for them either but the point was I ordered the lamps and never got them.

4) Lack of tow hooks despite the fact that the site advertised at the time the bumper had tow hooks. This information has since been deleted from the site.

All I got from David was a half hearted apology, despite all the problems. No tow hooks... not even ones I could weld on myself, no reverse lights despite MULTIPLE calls and e-mails. I finally gave up on them.

Despite all this it is a great product, but if you want a reliable vendor look elsewhere (ie: you need it withy ANY sense of urgency).

Projectzo has a great looking rear bumper that I think you can get through Ken Wilford at Vanagain. http://www.vanagain.com/Accessories.htm

Thanks, Chris

---- Original message ---- >Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:03:30 -0700 >From: The Wilsons <coyote808@COX.NET> >Subject: Utility rear bumpers ? >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >We've got a 86 Sycro Westy that has been the family windsurf mobile since >new. We've been through 4 back bumpers over the years. The stock version >is real flimsy. One little tap and they bend like a pretzel. They're also >not very easy to stand on (necessary for stacking sailboards on top). > >My current solution is an oak 2" X 4". Hoping to do better. Anyone know of >a supplier of good sturdy utility type after-market rear bumpers? > >Thanks, > >Mike Wilson >coyote808@cox.net


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