Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 20:05:01 -0700
Reply-To: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Moroso Ceramic Engine Seal/ Ken Wilfry?
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<P>So are you saying in a round about way, that it doesn't matter from which hole you drain it, cause when you did it you left some in. You see I'm rather paranoid of whether I should or shouldn't mess with the drain plug behind the shield. I was going to drain it from the coupling/tee-that-I-installed-(and-its-a-piece-of-cake) on the heater exchange hose above the spare tire. And now you've really got me confused. You're telling me, you never changed the water pump after it started leaking? I thought you warned about the possibility of moroso causing the water pump to freeze if it was weeping from the tale-tell leak hole. You know you could have applied some moroso to the body of the van on a humid day. </P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Kenneth Wilford <KENWILFY@COMCAST.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: Kenneth Wilford <KENWILFY@COMCAST.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Moroso Ceramic Engine Seal/ Ken Wilfry?
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:14:24 -0400
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<DIV></DIV>>Wow, this thread brings back memories :) I haven't used the Moroso Ceramic
<DIV></DIV>>Sealer for a long while, but it is still a great product for getting you
<DIV></DIV>>through an emergency situation. When I used it I drained the water with the
<DIV></DIV>>excess Moroso and let it dry overnight like the directions state. The next
<DIV></DIV>>day I didn't flush the system out, but just added antifreeze until the
<DIV></DIV>>system was approx 50/50 mix again (see the Bentley for the amount of coolant
<DIV></DIV>>in the system and then do the math). I wondered if leaving some of the
<DIV></DIV>>Moroso in the system would mess things up, however it was a life saver. We
<DIV></DIV>>went on a trip down to Georgia with the van (my '85 Smurf blue beast that is
<DIV></DIV>>now RIP) and the waterpump started leaking. I had no spare and we are
<DIV></DIV>>traveling with the kids, and the van was loaded down. I just decided to add
<DIV></DIV>>coolant and try to nurse it the rest of the way down. Guess what? The
<DIV></DIV>>Moroso sealed the leak and it was fine the rest of the trip and then up
<DIV></DIV>>until the time I pulled the motor (still running with no leaks, but the van
<DIV></DIV>>was rusted to pieces).
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<DIV></DIV>>So if you have an emergency or want to have something to use for emergency
<DIV></DIV>>leak seal, I would encourage the use of this stuff. It will seal not only
<DIV></DIV>>external leaks but also internal coolant leaks into the combustion chamber.
<DIV></DIV>>And unlike other products that use a tar-like substance to gum up your
<DIV></DIV>>entire coolant system, ever-after damning your radiator and other components
<DIV></DIV>>to slow and torturous death, this stuff flushes out. What is left becomes
<DIV></DIV>>like cement and is an almost permanant level repair (I would encourage you
<DIV></DIV>>to use any grace period supplied by Moroso to save up money for doing the
<DIV></DIV>>job right in the not-so-distant future though). Well that is my bi-yearly
<DIV></DIV>>post about this topic. Now I can't discuss it again until 2004 :)
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<DIV></DIV>>Thanks,
<DIV></DIV>>Ken Wilford
<DIV></DIV>>John 3:16
<DIV></DIV>>http://www.vanagain.com
<DIV></DIV>>Phone: (856)-327-4936
<DIV></DIV>>Fax: (856)-327-2242
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<DIV></DIV>> -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of
<DIV></DIV>>Mark Dorm
<DIV></DIV>> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:30 PM
<DIV></DIV>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>> Subject: Moroso Ceramic Engine Seal/ Ken Wilfry?
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<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> I found Moroso Ceramic Engine Seal at Santa Ana Speed in Orange County. I
<DIV></DIV>>couldn't find it anywhere in LA. Someplace on Pico Blvd in LA tried to tell
<DIV></DIV>>me they had the same exact stuff under different brand but the directions
<DIV></DIV>>where different. Their's was saying to leave in for 2 to 3 days, and Moroso
<DIV></DIV>>says no more than 24 hours. So they can't be the same stuff. Liars are
<DIV></DIV>>bastards, I'll avoid that store in the future, even his demeanor suggested
<DIV></DIV>>he fibbing.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> The thing I'm wondering is, after I drain the Moroso to let it dry
<DIV></DIV>>overnight, do I need to remove the engine plug under the shield which has to
<DIV></DIV>>be removed? Won't there be water still in there otherwise? Looking in the
<DIV></DIV>>Archives however, I find that people avoid dealing with that shield; that
<DIV></DIV>>its something of a nightmare. I especially like the entry I found by
<DIV></DIV>>searching under "flush radiator" to replace the coupling in the heater
<DIV></DIV>>exchange hose above the spare tire with a flush fitting, which I take to
<DIV></DIV>>mean a Tee. It means I don't have to cut anything. I looked above the spare
<DIV></DIV>>tire, and sure enough, the coupling is there. So I bought Prestone's little
<DIV></DIV>>Tee kit which is nice because it has screw clamps. A mechanic I spoke with
<DIV></DIV>>said its better to replace a spring loaded clamp with a screw clamp because
<DIV></DIV>>if you don't place the spring clamp exactly in the same position as was when
<DIV></DIV>>you removed it, it'll leak. The Prestone kit also means I don't have to make
<DIV></DIV>>or look around for a hose with two female ends bec
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<DIV></DIV>> So what does Ken Wilfry recommend for letting the moroso ceramic engine
<DIV></DIV>>seal dry overnight? Do I have to remove the shield and open the drain plug
<DIV></DIV>>or can just drain it from above said coupling?
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<DIV></DIV>> BTW, Moroso Ceramic Engine Seal is part number 35500 and can be found on
<DIV></DIV>>the web for 10.95 (don't recall the website, but I searched under excite and
<DIV></DIV>>yahoo and this shipper had a quick turn around for delivery to California)
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