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Date:         Sat, 4 May 2002 23:12:29 -0500
Reply-To:     "Terry K." <CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Terry K." <CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET>
Subject:      Re: Warning:  Don't buy cheap exterior mirrors
Comments: To: Alan Pickersgill <alanpick@MAGMA.CA>
In-Reply-To:  Alan Pickersgill <alanpick@MAGMA.CA>'s message of Sun, 5 May 2002
              00:00:53 -0400
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Alan,

I have the same mirror's, and had the same exact problem's---

The fix was simple---

Remove the nut and washer, pull the lower male ball out, and with a hacksaw, or air cut off tool, cut grooves into the ball about 1/16th apart---do the same on the lower part of the upper section of the mirror----

Put it back together----add another washer, to the stud, so it will draw up a little tighter--and it's fixed-----

The little cuts in the male section's of the mirror will bite into the female section's preventing it from moving as easy-----

Simple fix----

Later,

Terry

E-mail message From Alan Pickersgil

I've had a number of different sets of mirrors of different designs. The last were the Bus Depot ones. I picked them up from the shop and on my way home to Canada -stooped a couple of times to tighten the bolt - prevent being blown back by the wind. I broke one - overtightened it and Ron at Bus Depot was good enough to replace it . They never really worked (would blow out of adjustment at high speed) until I created a clear plastic splint for them. Piece of appropriately sized clear plastic hose with white nylon? reinforcing threads in it, cut to a couple of inches in length. Slit open the hose and put it around the base of the mirrors arm and tighten it quite tight, once it is adjusted properly. Looks a bit home made but works really well. In my opinion the ball joint structure simply doesn't have enough surface area to withstand the pressure of the wind even when tightened to the threshold of breaking. If anyone is interested send me a message and I'll take pictures and send. Alan 85 Transporter converted to Westfalia. ----- Original Message -----

Markus---- Just a quick question---- If in fact, the mirror's won't draw up tight---- Why in the hell would you want to soak them in Liquid Wrench? This is not going to solve your problem--- it's going to make it all the worse---!! Later, Terry

E-mail message

Looks like I'll be trying to fix my old one, which I'd tightened as far as I could. Maybe a several day bath in Liquid Wrench will help the base become tightenable again. ...Markus


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