Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 13:55:55 -0700
Reply-To: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Mark Dorm <mark_hb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tires Michelin Agilis vs LTX M/S
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<P>When I bought my van, there were four tires rated at 92 sized 195 from Pep Boys, Futura. I side swiped one of these tires, ruined it, put on the spare, a Michelin, and the Michelin seperated, which is what you experienced. <BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Stan Wilder <WILDEN1@JUNO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: Stan Wilder <WILDEN1@JUNO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Tires Michelin Agilis vs LTX M/S
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 00:00:27 -0500
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<DIV></DIV>>I've been running Michelin 61s 185x14, the recommended tire size for my
<DIV></DIV>>83 Westfalia.(5300 pounds)
<DIV></DIV>>I'd think that with lighter weight Vanagons 2900/3200 pounds that the 51s
<DIV></DIV>>would be OK.
<DIV></DIV>>I'm pleased with the 61s since I've got about 8k on them and they are not
<DIV></DIV>>showing any wear on the 5000 mile rotation.
<DIV></DIV>>I find that the stiff sidewall makes the tires a little noisy on
<DIV></DIV>>expansion joints but keep the sway and wind wash down to a minimum.
<DIV></DIV>>There are probably other tires that are just as good or possibly even
<DIV></DIV>>better but I think I'd buy the Agilis a second time if they continue to
<DIV></DIV>>be as good as they have been so far.
<DIV></DIV>>Some folks have found tires at CostCo that are comparable in the C & D
<DIV></DIV>>rating at a lower price and there are other that want a more aggressive
<DIV></DIV>>tire for Snow, Rain and Off Road that have found the more suitable tires
<DIV></DIV>>for their needs.
<DIV></DIV>>I often go off road on camping trips and all previous Michelin tires
<DIV></DIV>>separated at about 10K. I'm talking about new tires that met the
<DIV></DIV>>specifications of minimum inflation and weight capacity.
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<DIV></DIV>>Stan Wilder
<DIV></DIV>>83 Air Cooled Westfalia
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<DIV></DIV>>On Thu, 9 May 2002 21:39:42 -0700 Mark Dorm <MARK_HB@HOTMAIL.COM>writes:
<DIV></DIV>>http://tires.michelin-us.com/mastapp/servlet/Controller/site.catalog.Resu
<DIV></DIV>>lts?vehicletype=templatedata%2Fcatalog%2Fvehicle_type%2Fdata%2FTruckandVa
<DIV></DIV>>n&wheelsize=any&specificuse=any&vehicletypename=truck%2Fvan&wheelsizename
<DIV></DIV>>=any&specificusename=any&flag=1
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<DIV></DIV>>This Michelin site is ranking the LTX M/S better than the Agilis. And
<DIV></DIV>>note that when you search under size 14 inch wheels, only the LTX M/S
<DIV></DIV>>pops up, and when you type in 15 inch wheels, LTX M/S, other LTX's, and
<DIV></DIV>>Agilis pops up. I almost ordered Agilis and I was told it would be a two
<DIV></DIV>>month wait, so I didn't buy anything. Note that Vanagon.com tire page
<DIV></DIV>>mentions the Agilis 81 but not the 61, this is a mix up isn't it? The 61
<DIV></DIV>>is made for the Vanagon, the 81 exceeds Vanagon specs, and made Frank of
<DIV></DIV>>Stebro unhappy, though he had bad u-joints..., some other guy said he had
<DIV></DIV>>81's and he liked 'em.
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<DIV></DIV>>Anyway, aren't the LTX M/S under-weighted for our vans? This current
<DIV></DIV>>version of Michelins site doesn't make this an easy answer. There are
<DIV></DIV>>more specs that don't mean anything to me than there are stars in the
<DIV></DIV>>heavens.
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