Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:07:42 -0600
Reply-To: Ben McCafferty <ben@KBMC.NET>
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From: Ben McCafferty <ben@KBMC.NET>
Subject: Re: How does clutch slave cylinder attach to clutch lever arm?
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Yeah, I haven't had my tranny out for at least three months now <g>, but it
seems that there was some return mechanism, but I just can't recall.
Anyone?
bmc :)
"Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."
> From: John Clemens <jbclem@EARTHLINK.NET>
> Reply-To: John Clemens <jbclem@EARTHLINK.NET>
> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:56:49 -0700
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: How does clutch slave cylinder attach to clutch lever arm?
>
> Ben,
>
> Thanks for the answer. You confirmed what I thought, that at least it looks
> like everything is correct and that there is pressure from the slave piston.
> It doesn't make sense, knowing that VWs with broken clutch return
> springs(the older models) can result in throwout bearing failure from the
> constant pressure, but if this is how it is, than so be it! I'm not sure
> why it's not an issue, but Vanagons just don't have throwout bearing
> problems.
>
> Your's was the first answer, hopefully someone else will step in with an
> explanation.
>
> John
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben McCafferty" <ben@KBMC.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: How does clutch slave cylinder attach to clutch lever arm?
>
>
>> Hi John,
>> I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly, but let me give it a
>> shot.
>> The hydraulic line from your clutch master comes into the clutch slave.
> The
>> slave has a piston, surrounded by a rubber boot, that rides against the
>> cross shaft (the part that holds the throwout bearing inside the tranny).
>> The connection between the slave and the cross shaft is not a snap fit--it
>> is just a ball and socket. The slave is bolted into a bracket with two
> 13mm
>> bolts/nuts (they can be difficult to remove and replace). Then the whole
>> bracket/slave assembly bolts onto the side of the tranny. The positioning
>> of the assembly on the tranny puts pressure between the slave piston and
>> cross shaft arm. When you go to bolt up the slave/bracket assembly, you
>> will have to push the piston in a little to get it to clear onto the cross
>> shaft. After that, the pressure from the piston is what will hold the
>> ball/socket together.
>>
>> You make a good point about there being no return spring to hold the
>> throwout bearing off the pressure plate. I looked at mine and in Bentley,
>> and can't seem to find mention of one. Hopefully someone else out there
> can
>> enlighten us as to how the two parts are held apart. It doesn't seem like
>> the throwout bearing would be riding on the pressure plate tines all the
>> time, but maybe it does.
>>
>> Anyway, hope this answers part of your question at least.
>> bmc :)
>> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."
>>
>>
>>> From: John Clemens <jbclem@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>> Reply-To: John Clemens <jbclem@EARTHLINK.NET>
>>> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 02:41:18 -0700
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: How does clutch slave cylinder attach to clutch lever arm?
>>>
>>> On my watercooled Vanagon since there is no clutch return spring, it
> looks
>>> like the clutch lever arm has to be tightly attached to the clutch slave
>>> cylinder piston arm(rod). But on my 1983 Westphalia the ball on the end
> of
>>> the clutch lever arm doesn't stick inside the socket on the end of the
> slave
>>> cylinder arm(or rod?). When I removed the slave cylinder I didn't pay
>>> attention to this detail so I'm not sure if the ball is a loose fit in
> the
>>> socket or if it is supposed to snap in place. Since mine doesn't snap
> in
>>> place, there is nothing to hold the clutch lever arm up(and the throw
> out
>>> bearing away from the pressure plate).
>>>
>>> Can someone set me straight on this?
>>>
>>> Thank you, John
>>>
>>
>
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