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Date:         Tue, 14 May 2002 19:34:42 -0700
Reply-To:     John Tullier <elefntkpr@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Tullier <elefntkpr@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Driving In Canada
In-Reply-To:  <005c01c1fbb5$2d7b1d20$0a01a8c0@uwithinkpad>
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I agree Russell. I acknowledge that I've had little trouble with the Mountie's or even the local police in BC, but I do know they have thier faults...but hey, isn't this a government agency? Of course it's flawed. (Tax dollars = My money = Evil...no matter what the use!) heh <jk>

But what I totally agree with the most is the wasted effort to combat the evil plant called marijuana. I live in both the U.S. and Canada so I'll say this, it's worse in the States. All those resources used to fight pot...what a waste. But hey, I'm venturing waaaaayyy off topic here...I'm sorry guys. This is one of those personal "issues" that gets me going quickly. lol

Back to the Vanagons!

John

--- "Russell, William" <william.russell@UW-INC.COM> wrote: > True enough. My anger comes from a couple of > points. I am pissed off > that I am being picked on because of my recreation > vehicle and > threatened by hostile, insecure cops with guns and > clubs AND, I am > pissed off that my tax dollars are being wasted > looking for people > smoking pot. I mean come on. Every time I hear of > a real crime being > committed, I will think about those cops sitting > around eating doughnuts > and looking for 65hp VW vans cruising across Canada > at 95km/hr in fear > that they might be carrying some harmless weed. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Marshall [mailto:vanagon@volkswagen.org] > Sent: May 14, 2002 20:41 > To: Russell, William; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: RE: Driving In Canada > > Hey! > > The cops here arn't that bad! What you are saying > is common sense that > is > applicable in any civilized country. > > - be nice > - don't transport drugs > - don't drink and drive > > I have been driving T3s for years now - and not just > common everyday > ones if > they exist but 'weird' ones - never a problem. > > David Marshall > > Fast Forward Automotive Inc. > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 > > http://www.fastforward.ca > mailto:sales@fastforward.ca > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 > > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and > Importation > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of Russell, William > Sent: May 14, 2002 2:25 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Driving In Canada > > > I cannot recall who it was but recently someone > asked for any tips about > driving in Canada this summer and after having just > completed my 4500km > trip from Vancouver to Hamilton, I have some advice: > > > > Ensure that all your papers are in order. This > means license, > registration, insurance, ownership, passport, etc. > I mean completely in > order and readily available! The police up here > seem to have decided > that VW vans are the likely transport vehicles for > the drug trade and > are pulling them over without any reason whatsoever. > > > > Keep the van tidy inside. They need justification > to search a vehicle. > If there is none, they cannot search it (this is > based on their > behaviour, not my legal understanding). If you have > liquor on board, > keep in the furthest cabinet. Make absolutely sure > it is not in sight > and certainly not within reach of the driver. > > > > Don't transport illegal narcotics around (certainly > not the types that > Western Canada is famous for and the dogs love > smelling. If you happen > to be the type of person that carries a personal > amount with you, > avoiding a search should be your top priority. > > > > I was pulled over three times on the way from > Vancouver to Hamilton. I > wasn't speeding or driving recklessly or not using > signals or anything > else. I was carrying no illegal substances but I > really don't like > dealing with the police and certainly didn't > appreciate the veiled > threats that they presented. I was never searched > and I am convinced it > is because everything was in order. They scoured > the vehicle through > the windows using those giant "mag" lights, and I do > mean SCOURED. I am > convinced that if they had seen anything that they > could justify a > search with, they would have torn the van apart. > Instead they remained > outside the vehicle, searched through the windows > with flashlights, ran > my credentials through the computer, checked the > credentials of the > person travelling with me, and made threats about > dogs and > incarceration. > > > > I saw several other VW vans pulled over as well. > This was not something > isolated to my and my van. This is disgusting. I > was embarrassed for > all Canadians. What a waste of time and what a > hassle. In case you > didn't notice the tone, I am #*&*$ pissed about > this. > > > > Happy travelling, > > > > \/\/i!!y > > 1980 Westy "Jazzy"

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