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Date:         Wed, 8 May 2002 14:51:48 -0400
Reply-To:     Ben huot <huotx@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Ben huot <huotx@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject:      Re: Tempurature
Comments: To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>

Mmmmmm, first is don't agree on all point my dear Karl

>> = Karl wrote

>>Usually you are a source of good information, but this time, not so good.

Thanks and not so thanks(he he he, lol)

>>First, the high-speed fan kicks in at the correct temperature;

3/4 is to hot for me, sorry. I have a new front radiator and a new thermo switch! (+ most cooling parts where change). My van temperature is like before I do the overall cooling job. Gauge is in the lower parts of the coolant level light when on highway and on the upper parts of this one when in heavy traffic)

>that is when climbing a long steep grade or a similar situation where the engine is being stressed beyond normal limits.

Yes and in very hot condition / heavy traffic, the lower speed is sometime not enough, adding a manual switch for the high speed (so she start sooner) to maintain the temp at half-gauge in the dash is only a +. I have climb very long and steeps mountains last year (see my site) at very hot temperature 98-104F and never I had the temperature rising to more than half the gauge, never. So I don't see how the fan would go on when climbing if you have air going into the front rad??? As you are going forward!

As an example: Last summer in the Nevada desert, the temperature was about 104F, on freeway the needle was at the same position that when I was in Oregon at 55F (lower parts of the coolant level light)

>>The Vanagon cooling system works quite well, and really does not need to be tinkered with.

I do agree and I respect your opinion! But on my van I like to see the needle in the middle in heavy traffic, so I "tinkered" (nice word) the system so I can control the high speed of the fan. I kept the original thermo switch wiring to the fan motor, I just added a bypass switch.

>>You may drive it all day with the gauge at 3/4. Nothing really wrong with that.

That, I don't agree at all, sorry my friend! (You should check your system!)

>>Should it continue to climb above that point, it is good to keep a sharp eye on it, and be prepared to pull over IMMEDIATELY should you get the dreaded blinking red LED.

What led are you talking about, the LEVEL cooling LED, I said level! If there is a second diagram (engine temp/cooling level light) going to this light I would like to know. For now I just see the cooling level sender relate to this one! If there is a second light, I would like to know also! (87GL)

>>Second, if you choose to use the lower temperature thermostat, be prepared to lose about 2 miles per gallon of gas. The entire fuel injection system is tuned for the correct t'stat.

That I partially agree, especially if you run the engine to cold. Now tell me why 3(2 new and the old one) 87deg thermostat from VW are opening at different temperature? The 2 new at about 92/95deg and the old one at 85/87deg.

This is only a discussion by all mean; I am not trying to argue with anybody (Karl) at all and I hope that this discussion will help other.

This is only my point of view and my moderate experience on the subject. Sincerely, Ben (Freedom of speech gentlemen)


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