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Date:         Mon, 13 May 2002 21:09:43 -0700
Reply-To:     Claudio Cella <claudiocella@SHAW.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Claudio Cella <claudiocella@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: Head gasket job getting out of hand
Comments: To: John Morris <jmorris1@CAROLINA.RR.COM>

Hello John, i had a stud break on my 87 Vanagon GL passenger van several yeaars ago. The cylinder head stud broke as the van was being driven down the road. I found the way it broke somewhat unusual but nontheless i found myself with the same problem as you are now facing. No amount of penetrating oil and vise grip used was successful in removing. Much like yours i had about 1" or so of stud above the top of the outer cylinder jacket to work with. What finally worked was a propane torch and a tool called a stud extractor (this tool grips the stud by way of teeth and works off of a 1/2 inch rachet - as you use your rachet to undo your stud - counterclockwise - the extractor grips the stud tighter in its teeth). I applied heat at the block (yes, barrel removed, don't over heat you don't want to warp anything) where the stud screwed into the block, set up the stud extractor with a 3 ft extension on the rachet. It was either going to come out or break. There was a fairly audible crack (metal to metal) but the darn thing finally let loose and came out intact w/o breaking. By the way this work was done with the engine in the van, rear wheels elevated from the ground about 10" or so. I, much like you felt that i was in over my head but i was wrong !! Just keep cool, don't panic, study the problem and things will eventually work themselves out. Good luck. Hope this helps.

Claudio Cella 87 Vanagon GL 7 passenger 90 Jetta TD

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Morris" <jmorris1@CAROLINA.RR.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:28 AM Subject: Head gasket job getting out of hand

> Hi all,pulled the engine in my 85 Westy to replace head gaskets this > weekend. Things were going great on the driver side, barrels weren't stuck, > head sealing surface was pitted but reparable with JB Weld. Replaced the > water pump, t-stat and clutch and it all was going so smoothly, I should > have known that disaster was lurking on the other side of the case. > > On the passenger side, two of the head studs (both top middle ones) snapped > when I began to loosen the nuts. One of the studs looks long enough to > remove without much trouble, the other snapped leaving only about an inch of > stud showing. Is it possible to remove the piston pins without the use of > the VW special tool? And what methods would you employ to remove the > offending studs from the case? I'm assuming an EZ-out is the logical choice, > no? Any ideas or info from those that have been down this road before would > be greatly appreciated. > > Getting in over my head ! > > John Morris > '85 Westy > "If he speaks in the woods but she is not there to hear him, is he still > wrong?"


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