Date:         Wed, 15 May 2002 09:06:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@UVIC.CA>
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From:         Alistair Bell <albell@UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Want to paint camper roof
In-Reply-To:  <B907D545.30F7%albell@uvic.ca>
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Terry,

I believe you, but I would be willing to bet (if I were a betting man) that
aluminium is held together by Al or ferrous fastenings. I bet you'll have a
hard time finding Al fastenings holding anything other than Al or fibreglass
bits together.

ab


> From: CTONLINE@webtv.net (Terry K.)
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:53:38 -0500 (CDT)
> To: albell@uvic.ca (Alistair Bell)
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Want to paint camper roof
> 
> Alistair---
> 
> The cabs of the Pete's and KW's are all aluminum----with aluminum
> interior framework, and supports----
> 
> And all this stuff is riveted together---
> 
> OK--there is a bunch of stuff inside that cab that is also steel
> --gussets, hardware, controls, that are mild steel-----
> 
> Aluminum rivets and steel nuts bolts and screws hold all these
> components together---- It's a mix match of different metals--and it
> works---
> Don't ask me why--it just does---
> 
> There are just about zero stainless fasteners anywhere on a truck---cost
> prohibitive---
> 
> And believe me---these truck manufacturers today don't use anything that
> will cost an extra buck----
> 
> 
> 
> E-mail message   
> 
> Sender: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com (Vanagon Mailing List) From:
> albell@UVIC.CA (Alistair Bell) Date: Wed, May 15, 2002, 8:33am (CDT-2)
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Want to paint
> camper roof 
> Terry, 
> of course is a trivial thread, but you still don't get it!
> The big rigs you mentioned all use stainless (or other ferrous)
> fasteners into (the larger) aluminium piece. That's the key point. If it
> were the other way around, i.e. aluminium fasteners into stainless bits,
> then you would see more truck bits lying by the side of the hwy.
> Say after me, "use stainless fasteners into aluminium, not aluminium
> fasteners into stainless"
> ab 
> From: "Terry K." <CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET>
> Reply-To: "Terry K." <CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET>
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:26:19 -0500
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Want to paint camper roof
> Mike and other's---
> I totally forgot a good example of why this wouldn't happen to several
> measly hold down cleats up on a luggage rack way up on top of a
> Westy---- 
> Next time any of you go for a blast in you Vanagon----and get blown away
> by a large car--Peterbuilt, Mack, or KW----- Check out his front
> wheels----fuel tanks---battery boxes---
> Guess what they are made out of?
> Alcoa Aluminum---
> And how are them wheels held on?
> Mild steel lugs---bolted to cast steel hubs---
> How bout them dual 150 gal fuel tanks?
> Stainless straps, bolted to a steel, sometimes alunimum frame, with zinc
> plated mild steel nuts, and washers--
> And how about them aluminum frames?
> Every component on that semi is held to that frame with mid steel nuts,
> bolts and washers---from the suspension to the cab---
> And you guys worry about 12 aluminum rivets, 7 feet off the ground, out
> of the salt wash in the winter---very trivial stuff---
> Stanless steel, and a couple of aluminum rivets, that high up won't make
> a tinkers damn in you lifetime---believe me---
> Now lets have some good trivial issues here----some real meaty
> stuff----so I can blow some more dumb concepts out the window---
> Later, 
> Terry 
> 
>