Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:05:58 -0700
Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Hung in the middle - Bumper drawings
Phil,
Think beyond your scenario.
If the bumper is built hell-for-stout, and the energy of a collision has to
be dissipated somewhere (rules of physics, here), to where will that energy
be transferred?
What is your insurance company going to say about the damage to the frame of
the van (to say nothing injuries to the occupants), when the damage was
arguably caused by your retrofitment of a non-standard safety device?
That's a can-o'-worms that I wouldn't want to open
(Aargh, worms!!!)
Karl Wolz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil S." <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Hung in the middle - Bumper drawings
> Dont forget the shipping $$ for those monsters.
> My biggest problem with these is that what if a car
> hits this bumper, will the insurance agree to pay $850
> to replace this non OEM-bumper?
>
> Maybe someone could make an extra bull bar bumper
> mounted in front of the Volks Cafe bumper in order to
> protect it AND the Vanagon:)
>
> Phil
>
>
> --- il cikaspers <cikasper@MAIL.CRUZIO.COM> wrote:
> > maybe in texas, but in santa cruz the pipe they're
> > using for the front and
> > rears costs about $400 for all of it. unless i've
> > been looking at
> > something like stainless, which is more like $1600
> > for all of it. the
> > welding and bending can certainly come to $200, and
> > powdercoating another
> > $200. that's damn close to $850.
> >
> > yes, i know peter, yes i like volkscafe. unless he
> > has lied to me (i
> > highly doubt that) they're really not making much on
> > the things. now, the
> > guy that sells them to vc might be ripping them off,
> > i don't know. i seem
> > to remember at least one other listee who looked
> > into having these style
> > bumpers made up, and he was in the $600 range for
> > the pair, mounted.
> >
> > and stan, if you can get me pipe to that schedule, 4
> > 8' pieces and one 4'
> > piece, i'll send you $150 for shipping, and my
> > address...
> >
> > bill
> >
> > >Sorry guys I can't find the drawing for the rear
> > bumpers Mick Kabler has
> > >them for sure ...... I'll explore.
> > >I'll post them to my website so everybody can get
> > them.
> > >I didn't mean to rant about the price these guys
> > were charging for their
> > >bumpers but there is only about $30.00 in materials
> > (other than the
> > >powder coat) just a few minor bends and really just
> > dirt simple
> > >construction, the pipe ends have freeze plugs
> > welded on them for caps.
> > >Try to remember this term "Obscene Profit" I may
> > use it again if I get to
> > >raving.
> > >
> > >
> > >Stan Wilder
> > >
> >
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