Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:52:27 -0500
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
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From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Living in a van
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Many Chicago beaches will be closed from time to time again this year.
The
main reason is a rise in bacteria that comes from 3 sources:
Sewage back-up during rains.
Dog-poop on beach near the water
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You big bunch of babies .......... the West Coast folks swim in that
brown water all the time.
Stan
On Sat, 25 May 2002 00:10:05 -0500 Chris Smith <chris.smith@AQUILA.NET>
writes:
> Many Chicago beaches will be closed from time to time again this
> year. The
> main reason is a rise in bacteria that comes from 3 sources:
>
> Sewage back-up during rains.
>
> Dog-poop on beach near the water
>
> Food left on beach near the water.
>
> This is tried and true. The same thing happens in the wild as well,
> only
> there is often no one testing every day to see if the water is
> clean. If
> your going to wash, please do not let the wash water run into any
> body of
> water. Soap kills many things needed for a healthy eco-system.
> this is
> true for any soap. If for some reason you can't ensure that your
> wash
> water will not flow into a body of water an old boy-scout trick is
> to take
> a large plastic bag, fill it with leaves, punch holes in the bottom
> and
> filter the wash water through it. Then when your done, burn the
> leaves in
> your camp-fire and pack-out the bag. It's not a perfect solution,
> but it
> has cleaned many streams on larger scout ranches.
>
> At 09:49 AM 5/24/02, DaveC wrote:
> >>Hey everybody,
> >>
> >> Lots of great ideas for camping, but please remember:
> NEVER WASH OR
> >>BATHE IN A STREAM OR LAKE. Not even with biodegradable soap.
> All
> >>'biodegradable' means is that it will break down in soil in a
> relatively
> >>short time. Any soap that you put in water can kill the living
> things in the
> >>water. You know, like pouring soap down your lungs. You should
> use
> >>biodegradable soap, it is better for the environment and you can
> dump it in
> >>the woods, just not near the water.
> >>
> >> Think about it -- if the soap was really that
> biodegradable, it would
> >>degrade as soon as it hit your wash water, so it wouldn't clean
> your clothes.
> >> It does stay active in the water and screws up lots of
> ecological
> >> functions.
> >> Have pity on some wildlife and dump in the woods, not the lake.
> >
> >I see people washing their dishes right in the stream/river all
> the
> >time. I, exasperatedly, explain to each, how the ideas is to take
> >water *out* of the river and wash them a ways inland. The waste
> water
> >filters through the soil back to the water table. If you put your
> >food waste (and worse!) directly into the water, folks downstream
> are
> >sure to get diarrhea.
> >
> >Dave
> >--
> >Dave Carpenter
> >
> >Whatever you wish for me,
> >May you have twice as much.
> >
> >"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
> >magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
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