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Date:         Mon, 27 May 2002 23:29:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: True Grit---
Comments: To: "Terry K." <CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET>

Hey TK,

What's wrong with Ron and Ken's nuts?

Karl

----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry K." <CTONLINE@WEBTV.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: Re: True Grit---

> Ok--I changed my mind---- > > Lifetime roadside assitance, and no less than an 8" elbow, Polish air > conditioning PVC air scoop, hanging out the rear window, and the bicycle > it's pictured with, and you have a deal---- > > And one more clause---all the lug nuts have to be new--and I want to see > the receipts for them from a reputable source, like direct from VW > > > E-mail message > > > That is the one I drive .............. > So start naming parts and most likely I'll be able to tell you that its > new on that Westy. > I see generic 80-83 Air Cooled being sold as buyer beware in the > $6500.00 range and I just know that I'd sell this one to God without any > remorse. Guarantees ....... not likely. I see the way the rest of the > world behaves on the Interstate Highways. > I can't remember ever turning the engine over 4000 Rpms and I read on > the list that people think they have a sweet spot at 4500 on an Air > Cooled ......... yes sure, the cam dies at 4200. > If somebody pays my price they'll take care of that Westy or ask Daddy > for money to fix it. > The others I've sold were in the $3500.00 range and might have brought > more if they had already been on the West Coast. > Stan > On Tue, 28 May 2002 00:22:20 -0500 (CDT) CTONLINE@webtv.net (Terry K.) > writes: > You don't try and make a killing? > The green Weenie is advertised on you web page for $10500.00------ > Does this include a lifetime towing, road assistance, and bumper to > bumper warrantee? > Gott in Himmel--- > Du Bist Verruckt !!! > E-mail message From Stan Wilder > My Westy out front must mean I buy Vanagons. I normally have two Westies > in the drive, my personal unit and one I'm restoring so they think I'll > but theirs and they try to sell them to me. I've turned down every Waser > Boxer that was offered to me and one was an 89 Wolfsburg that was a > beauty, I turned it down at $800.00 and the guy that bought it got it > for $650.00. > I didn't even give it a good look see but externally and the interior > was very nice, showing about 88K on the speedo. I know I could have > parted it out for a profit but my neighborhood is > 250K homes and I'm just not going to crap on my neighbors by parting out > a van from my home. > The problem is that: > #1) I'm way,way upside down in my 83 Air Cooled Westy. #2) The Wolfsburg > was just a 7 person hauler, not much demand in Texas. #3) I'm sitting on > enough parts to restore about any 80-83 Air Cooled Westy that comes my > way. > #4) I know that the Waser Boxer engine requires expert rebuilding and I > don't have the equipment or experience to do a rebuild. #5) Just > generally speaking the Vanagons are just not popular in Texas and have > "Zip 0" resale value. > Certainly there will be Waser Boxer Vanagon owners in Texas that will > disagree but I just speak from what I see. The first thing I get from a > Waser Boxer seller is several price reductions immediately. I've never > had to discount one of my restored Westies. Course I don't try to make a > killing on them either. > Stan > On Tue, 28 May 2002 00:05:00 -0400 jhlauterbach <jhlauterbach@MSN.COM> > writes: > Stan, you are most correct. When I bought my '84 in May '97, I paid $500 > + > 30 sales tax. I have spent over $5K over the past 5 years getting it in > shape, and I still have a paint job to do. Of course, I have driven it > to/from work most of the time that I have had the van. John Lauterbach > Macon, GA > '84 7-passenger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 11:31 PM > Subject: Re: True Grit--- > It was not my intention to strike fear in the hearts of every Vanagon > and > Westy owner with my statement about spending your purchase price again > within a year of buying your vehicle. > I've never purchased an Air Cooled Vanagon and Westy from a list member > and most of the people that sell the vans are just members of the > general public and are not list members. I've found that the sellers > have just reached their maximum level of > endurance for keeping their vehicle running. In many cases of Westies > I've purchased to resurrect or Vanagons I purchased for an economical > parts source the vehicles have had extensive and expensive repairs and > maintenance done on them by local and even authorized VW dealers. I find > one new head or often a VW Factory rebuilt engine and all kinds > of signs of recent new fuel pumps, ignition systems, brakes and every > other potential repair. > The glove box often has a good supply of repair tickets and parts > receipts. > Along with the stack of receipts I find many potential reasons for the > engine failure, this list is lengthy but I'll list a few; Engine Seal > Missing, Muffler Heat Shield Missing, Dropped Valve Seats, Hammered out > Valve seats, leaking cylinders, over tightened lifters, jumpers on the > full throttle switch, massive vacuum leaks everywhere, wrong spark wires > and wrong spark plugs, running Automatic Transmission Oil with the > engine oil to quieten lifters, running 10/30 motor oil.. Since I don't > pay retail on these dead units it is very easy to double my investment > very quickly if I have to buy new parts to bring them back to a safe > dependable vehicle. > I quickly doubled my investment on my 83 Westy after I bought it in > 1995. I'm guilty of driving it like a normal car, pushing the speed, > overworking the engine and just in general making those miles without > really knowing anything about the proper care and maintenance. After I > blew #3 cylinder and bought a new set of heads in 1996 I started getting > a little smarter and started taking care of the little things before > they *stopped me in my tracks*, > I managed to get 140K out of the existing, recently rebuilt engine after > the above repairs over a periods of four years. I nearly wore out the > roads to the lakes and 500 miles a weekend was never a problem. I > managed to log a lot of miles going to Vicksburg MS and lots of trips to > Houston from Dallas. > I require myself to say this ......... If I had known how a really > good > rebuilt engine would improve the vehicle, I'd have installed one the day > after I bought the Westy. > I suffered through about five years with just marginal performance and a > fair amount of tinkering trying to peak out a marginal engine. Stan > Wilder > 83 Air Cooled Westfalia > ______________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! > For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > ______________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! > For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.


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