Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:16:08 -0400
Reply-To: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining primary)
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But the clock, radio, etc. draw already. What is normal?
Thanks,
Chris
---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:17:02 -0400
>From: Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
>Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery
draining primary)
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>Put an ammeter across the neg. cable and the neg. post to
see if any
>current is flowing. This will show any leakage.
>
>
Jay
>
>
>
>
>80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>@gerry.vanagon.com> on
05/29/2002
>08:59:58 AM
>
>Please respond to 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
>
>Sent by: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
>
>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>cc:
>Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery
draining primary)
>
>
>There was no fridge relay per se, but I bought the EXACT same
>relay and used it for the install.
>
>The fridge switch is NOT in the 12V position, so I can't
>understand why the battery is draining. Plus the aux battery
>(from the admittedly micky mouse LEDs on the fridge stove
>unit still has a partial charge).
>
>The alternator is a seperate problem that is just making
>things worse.
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:33:23 -0400
>>From: "Vanagon man" <vgonman@msn.com>
>>Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery
>draining primary)
>>To: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
>>
>>Did you use the existing fridge relay or install another?
>If you used the
>>existing one, then i can help.....let me know.
>>
>>PS the brush box is available anywhere..vanagain has them.
>The problem lies
>>within your wiring. It wounds like you have them in
>parallel. The
>>alternator output is not the issue, it is the way it is
>wired. I have had
>>my aux battery wired for 2 years with stock alternator with
>nothing but 2
>>fully charged batteries.
>>
>>PS using the fridge on 12v drains any battery fast, ant it
>is not very
>>efficient. Propane is the way to go.
>>
>>
>>Adam P
>>
>>81 Vanagon Westy (The Brick)
>>70 Single Cab "Whitey"
>>74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
>>73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
>>1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
>>Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:24 AM
>>Subject: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining
>primary)
>>
>>
>>> OK, my alternator is certainly part of the problem so
>rather
>>> than repaire I would like to upgrade.
>>>
>>> I searched the Vanagon archives and checked out Tom's VW
>>> Pages:
>>> http://volksweb.relitech.com/90alt.htm
>>>
>>> But most upgrades are for WBX. Anyone ever upgrade an air
>>> cooled Alternator?
>>>
>>> Anyone have any comments on my aux battery below?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ---- Original message ----
>>> >Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:38:09 -0400
>>> >From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@vanagon.org>
>>> >Subject: Is my aux battery draining my primary?
>>> >To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com,
>the_bug_pack@yahoogroups.com,
>>> type2@type2.com
>>> >
>>> >I thought I hooked up my second battery right. Given the
>>> >fact that it was totally dead today I clearly didn't.
>>> >
>>> >Before I get into the battery let me also say that I ALSO
>>> >suspect my alternator brushes to be worn out. Anyone know
>>> >the partnumber for the replacement cartridge?
>>> >
>>> >Anyway... I jump started the vehicle and as soon as I
>>> >unhooked the negative terminal the engine died. This
>happend
>>> >twice. So the battery was DEAD.
>>> >
>>> >Now here is how the second battery was hooked up. First
>off
>>> >remeber this is a 1980 westy, with no stock second
battery
>>> >and no relay under the drivers seat.
>>> >
>>> >Secondly, I don't know much about electrical systems and
>>> >hooked this up with someone else's instruction. I won't
be
>>> >able to follow a complex answer, nor is my explanation of
>>> >the setup complex.
>>> >
>>> >1) The black sheath to the fridge was cut to do the
>install.
>>> >The rear part has a red wire (with an inline fuse) and a
>>> >white wire. The front part has a blue and a red. The red
>was
>>> >one wire before it was cut and the blue and the white
were
>>> >also the same wire.
>>> >
>>> >2) The rear portion of the sheathed wire, the one with
the
>>> >white and the red is setup like this: The red goes from
>the
>>> >inline fuse to the positive terminal on battery number 2.
>>> >The white goes to some kind rectangular clear connector,
>>> >then on the other side of the connector the wire turns
>blue.
>>> >That blue wire goes to the 86 on the relay... then
>continues
>>> >to the front part of the sheathed wire and dissapears
>under
>>> >the drivers seat.
>>> >
>>> >3) The red from the front sheathing goes to the 85 on the
>>> >relay.
>>> >
>>> >4) There is a wire running from the 87 on the relay to
the
>>> >positive terminal on battery number 2.
>>> >
>>> >5) There is a wire running from the 30 on the relay to
the
>>> >positive terminal on battery number ONE.
>>> >
>>> >I just cant figure out where the power is being sucked
>from.
>>> >Any ideas?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks,
>>> >Chris
>>>