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Date:         Fri, 31 May 2002 10:20:53 -0600
Reply-To:     Ben McCafferty <ben@KBMC.NET>
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From:         Ben McCafferty <ben@KBMC.NET>
Subject:      Re: was To buy or not to buy:  87 Westy NOW: Green Coolant?
Comments: To: Stones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <5.1.0.14.0.20020531113241.00aae300@mail.idirect.com>
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Reportedly the orange juice from Havoline is safe as well. I get the blue stuff at the dealer in the US for $14.80 per gallon, so it must be a bit higher in Canada. I use the blue stuff, once every year or two. bmc :) "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."

> From: Stones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM> > Reply-To: Stones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM> > Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:44:25 -0400 > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: was To buy or not to buy: 87 Westy NOW: Green Coolant? > > At 11:14 AM 5/31/02 -0400, Eric wrote: >> OK, this whole proper coolant for Vanagon issue seems somewhat baffling to >> me. Someone in a recent posting offering advice on whether to buy a Westy >> said they were concerned about the green coolant. My coolant is green >> straight out of the container. It is Prestone brand. It says safe for all >> aluminum parts on the label, but it doesn't say phosphate free. So is >> Prestone safe? If not, what brands are safe? What do phosphates damage in >> the engine? > > The "blue goo", the coolant specifically designed to prevent head > gasket-itis (PN: G 011V8BA1, Mat No. G 011 V8B JB) is almost a green color. > At it's price I don't know if it's worth it, about $20-$25 for 1.5L, but I > haven't had head-gasket-itis in 7 years accumulating about 200,000 km. The > dealership morons tell me that that part number doesn't exist until I speak > really slowly reading it off of the clearly VW bottle, then they say that > it's never been available in North America which makes me wonder which > continent I drove to to buy it. > Now I know this is going to bring the spammers out of the woodwork to flame > me for paying too much for coolant, I know I did, but it has lasted a > while, you needn't educate me on shopping. > Basically, I suppose I'm just saying it doesn't matter what color they make > it, what matters is whether it will help to pit your aluminum heads and > de-grade your gasket. Phosphates can certainly cause problems with the > gaskets of aluminum headed engines. >


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