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Date:         Wed, 29 May 2002 09:17:02 -0400
Reply-To:     Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining primary)
Comments: To: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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Put an ammeter across the neg. cable and the neg. post to see if any current is flowing. This will show any leakage.

Jay

80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>@gerry.vanagon.com> on 05/29/2002 08:59:58 AM

Please respond to 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>

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To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM cc: Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining primary)

There was no fridge relay per se, but I bought the EXACT same relay and used it for the install.

The fridge switch is NOT in the 12V position, so I can't understand why the battery is draining. Plus the aux battery (from the admittedly micky mouse LEDs on the fridge stove unit still has a partial charge).

The alternator is a seperate problem that is just making things worse.

Thanks, Chris

---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:33:23 -0400 >From: "Vanagon man" <vgonman@msn.com> >Subject: Re:      Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining primary) >To: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG> > >Did you use the existing fridge relay or install another? If you used the >existing one, then i can help.....let me know. > >PS the brush box is available anywhere..vanagain has them. The problem lies >within your wiring. It wounds like you have them in parallel. The >alternator output is not the issue, it is the way it is wired. I have had >my aux battery wired for 2 years with stock alternator with nothing but 2 >fully charged batteries. > >PS using the fridge on 12v drains any battery fast, ant it is not very >efficient. Propane is the way to go. > > >Adam P > >81 Vanagon Westy (The Brick) >70 Single Cab "Whitey" >74 Beetle "Ol Yeller" >73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop) >1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg >Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:24 AM >Subject: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining primary) > > >> OK, my alternator is certainly part of the problem so rather >> than repaire I would like to upgrade. >> >> I searched the Vanagon archives and checked out Tom's VW >> Pages: >> http://volksweb.relitech.com/90alt.htm >> >> But most upgrades are for WBX. Anyone ever upgrade an air >> cooled Alternator? >> >> Anyone have any comments on my aux battery below? >> >> Thanks, >> Chris >> >> ---- Original message ---- >> >Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:38:09 -0400 >> >From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@vanagon.org> >> >Subject: Is my aux battery draining my primary? >> >To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com, the_bug_pack@yahoogroups.com, >> type2@type2.com >> > >> >I thought I hooked up my second battery right. Given the >> >fact that it was totally dead today I clearly didn't. >> > >> >Before I get into the battery let me also say that I ALSO >> >suspect my alternator brushes to be worn out. Anyone know >> >the partnumber for the replacement cartridge? >> > >> >Anyway... I jump started the vehicle and as soon as I >> >unhooked the negative terminal the engine died. This happend >> >twice. So the battery was DEAD. >> > >> >Now here is how the second battery was hooked up. First off >> >remeber this is a 1980 westy, with no stock second battery >> >and no relay under the drivers seat. >> > >> >Secondly, I don't know much about electrical systems and >> >hooked this up with someone else's instruction. I won't be >> >able to follow a complex answer, nor is my explanation of >> >the setup complex. >> > >> >1) The black sheath to the fridge was cut to do the install. >> >The rear part has a red wire (with an inline fuse) and a >> >white wire. The front part has a blue and a red. The red was >> >one wire before it was cut and the blue and the white were >> >also the same wire. >> > >> >2) The rear portion of the sheathed wire, the one with the >> >white and the red is setup like this: The red goes from the >> >inline fuse to the positive terminal on battery number 2. >> >The white goes to some kind rectangular clear connector, >> >then on the other side of the connector the wire turns blue. >> >That blue wire goes to the 86 on the relay... then continues >> >to the front part of the sheathed wire and dissapears under >> >the drivers seat. >> > >> >3) The red from the front sheathing goes to the 85 on the >> >relay. >> > >> >4) There is a wire running from the 87 on the relay to the >> >positive terminal on battery number 2. >> > >> >5) There is a wire running from the 30 on the relay to the >> >positive terminal on battery number ONE. >> > >> >I just cant figure out where the power is being sucked from. >> >Any ideas? >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Chris >>


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