Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:55:30 -0600
Reply-To: Michael Blackburn <blackburn@CODENET.NET>
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From: Michael Blackburn <blackburn@CODENET.NET>
Subject: Re: NOW: Green Coolant?
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Hi Rich and all,
I thought that the green (phospate included) coolants where bad for just
water boxers, due to the material of the heads. Your saying that all
watercooled VW's are susceptible to the same corroded head syndrome if you
don't use the blue stuff. Just curious since I am getting a van this
weekend with a Eurospec 8V GTI conversion in it instead of the water boxer.
TIA,
Mike
Soon to own a 1990 Syncro Adventurewagen
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From: R Blake <blake@OAKHARBOR.NET>
Reply-To: R Blake <blake@OAKHARBOR.NET>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:38:33 -0700
Green coolant is bad for all H20 VWs. Prestone does make phosphate free
coolant but it is orange in color, it specifically says phosphate free on
the label. I use it in my H20 VWs because it is easy to find and cheap. I
also use nothing but distilled water (tap water will corrode your motor) and
some Redline water wetter. I normally use only 25% coolant to water ratio.
Rich Blake
88 GTi16v
88 Jetta8v
01 NB 1.8t
wish I had a westy
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of R Blake
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:39 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: was To buy or not to buy: 87 Westy NOW: Green Coolant?
Green coolant is bad for all H20 VWs. Prestone does make phosphate free
coolant but it is orange in color, it specifically says phosphate free on
the label. I use it in my H20 VWs because it is easy to find and cheap. I
also use nothing but distilled water (tap water will corrode your motor) and
some Redline water wetter. I normally use only 25% coolant to water ratio.
Rich Blake
88 GTi16v
88 Jetta8v
01 NB 1.8t
wish I had a westy
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben McCafferty <ben@KBMC.NET>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: was To buy or not to buy: 87 Westy NOW: Green Coolant?
>Reportedly the orange juice from Havoline is safe as well. I get the blue
>stuff at the dealer in the US for $14.80 per gallon, so it must be a bit
>higher in Canada.
>I use the blue stuff, once every year or two.
>bmc :)
>"Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel...."
>
>
>> From: Stones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM>
>> Reply-To: Stones <sstones@IDIRECT.COM>
>> Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:44:25 -0400
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: was To buy or not to buy: 87 Westy NOW: Green Coolant?
>>
>> At 11:14 AM 5/31/02 -0400, Eric wrote:
>>> OK, this whole proper coolant for Vanagon issue seems somewhat baffling
to
>>> me. Someone in a recent posting offering advice on whether to buy a
Westy
>>> said they were concerned about the green coolant. My coolant is green
>>> straight out of the container. It is Prestone brand. It says safe for
all
>>> aluminum parts on the label, but it doesn't say phosphate free. So is
>>> Prestone safe? If not, what brands are safe? What do phosphates damage
in
>>> the engine?
>>
>> The "blue goo", the coolant specifically designed to prevent head
>> gasket-itis (PN: G 011V8BA1, Mat No. G 011 V8B JB) is almost a green
color.
>> At it's price I don't know if it's worth it, about $20-$25 for 1.5L, but
I
>> haven't had head-gasket-itis in 7 years accumulating about 200,000 km.
The
>> dealership morons tell me that that part number doesn't exist until I
speak
>> really slowly reading it off of the clearly VW bottle, then they say that
>> it's never been available in North America which makes me wonder which
>> continent I drove to to buy it.
>> Now I know this is going to bring the spammers out of the woodwork to
flame
>> me for paying too much for coolant, I know I did, but it has lasted a
>> while, you needn't educate me on shopping.
>> Basically, I suppose I'm just saying it doesn't matter what color they
make
>> it, what matters is whether it will help to pit your aluminum heads and
>> de-grade your gasket. Phosphates can certainly cause problems with the
>> gaskets of aluminum headed engines.
>>
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