Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:17:02 -0400
Reply-To: Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
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From: Jay L Snyder <Jay.L.Snyder@USA.DUPONT.COM>
Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining primary)
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Put an ammeter across the neg. cable and the neg. post to see if any
current is flowing. This will show any leakage.
Jay
80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>@gerry.vanagon.com> on 05/29/2002
08:59:58 AM
Please respond to 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining primary)
There was no fridge relay per se, but I bought the EXACT same
relay and used it for the install.
The fridge switch is NOT in the 12V position, so I can't
understand why the battery is draining. Plus the aux battery
(from the admittedly micky mouse LEDs on the fridge stove
unit still has a partial charge).
The alternator is a seperate problem that is just making
things worse.
Thanks,
Chris
---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:33:23 -0400
>From: "Vanagon man" <vgonman@msn.com>
>Subject: Re: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery
draining primary)
>To: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
>
>Did you use the existing fridge relay or install another?
If you used the
>existing one, then i can help.....let me know.
>
>PS the brush box is available anywhere..vanagain has them.
The problem lies
>within your wiring. It wounds like you have them in
parallel. The
>alternator output is not the issue, it is the way it is
wired. I have had
>my aux battery wired for 2 years with stock alternator with
nothing but 2
>fully charged batteries.
>
>PS using the fridge on 12v drains any battery fast, ant it
is not very
>efficient. Propane is the way to go.
>
>
>Adam P
>
>81 Vanagon Westy (The Brick)
>70 Single Cab "Whitey"
>74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
>73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
>1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
>Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:24 AM
>Subject: Air Cooled Alternator (Was: aux battery draining
primary)
>
>
>> OK, my alternator is certainly part of the problem so
rather
>> than repaire I would like to upgrade.
>>
>> I searched the Vanagon archives and checked out Tom's VW
>> Pages:
>> http://volksweb.relitech.com/90alt.htm
>>
>> But most upgrades are for WBX. Anyone ever upgrade an air
>> cooled Alternator?
>>
>> Anyone have any comments on my aux battery below?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>> >Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:38:09 -0400
>> >From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@vanagon.org>
>> >Subject: Is my aux battery draining my primary?
>> >To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com,
the_bug_pack@yahoogroups.com,
>> type2@type2.com
>> >
>> >I thought I hooked up my second battery right. Given the
>> >fact that it was totally dead today I clearly didn't.
>> >
>> >Before I get into the battery let me also say that I ALSO
>> >suspect my alternator brushes to be worn out. Anyone know
>> >the partnumber for the replacement cartridge?
>> >
>> >Anyway... I jump started the vehicle and as soon as I
>> >unhooked the negative terminal the engine died. This
happend
>> >twice. So the battery was DEAD.
>> >
>> >Now here is how the second battery was hooked up. First
off
>> >remeber this is a 1980 westy, with no stock second battery
>> >and no relay under the drivers seat.
>> >
>> >Secondly, I don't know much about electrical systems and
>> >hooked this up with someone else's instruction. I won't be
>> >able to follow a complex answer, nor is my explanation of
>> >the setup complex.
>> >
>> >1) The black sheath to the fridge was cut to do the
install.
>> >The rear part has a red wire (with an inline fuse) and a
>> >white wire. The front part has a blue and a red. The red
was
>> >one wire before it was cut and the blue and the white were
>> >also the same wire.
>> >
>> >2) The rear portion of the sheathed wire, the one with the
>> >white and the red is setup like this: The red goes from
the
>> >inline fuse to the positive terminal on battery number 2.
>> >The white goes to some kind rectangular clear connector,
>> >then on the other side of the connector the wire turns
blue.
>> >That blue wire goes to the 86 on the relay... then
continues
>> >to the front part of the sheathed wire and dissapears
under
>> >the drivers seat.
>> >
>> >3) The red from the front sheathing goes to the 85 on the
>> >relay.
>> >
>> >4) There is a wire running from the 87 on the relay to the
>> >positive terminal on battery number 2.
>> >
>> >5) There is a wire running from the 30 on the relay to the
>> >positive terminal on battery number ONE.
>> >
>> >I just cant figure out where the power is being sucked
from.
>> >Any ideas?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Chris
>>
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