Date:         Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:46:19 -0700
Reply-To:     Brent Christensen <sbsyncro@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Brent Christensen <sbsyncro@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Is it time for a Tiico list?
Comments: To: bmuller@uoft02.utoledo.edu
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This is usually the objection that comes up when this "splitting" is
suggested.  Here is my opinion, FWIW:

With technology being what it is today, you can subscribe to 100 different
lists, all on different servers, and have them all delivered to your inbox
as if they were coming from the same source.  I subscribe to three daily
newspapers and one weekly paper.  I read each of them for different reasons.
  Same idea - my neighbor only gets one daily paper - by choice.

It is really all about choice.  I don't think this will have the splintering
effect that you (and others I am sure) worry about.  Take the Syncro list
for example.  There used to be about 600 people on the vanagon list a couple
of years ago when it was proposed that us "Syncro snobs" take our topic to a
separate list.  At the time, I expressed the same fears that you are now.
As it turns out, there are now about 600 people on the Syncro list, and
almost 900 on the Vanagon list.  Most of us on the Syncro list are also on
this list (and I would bet there are a fair number of 2WD owners on the
Syncro list).

The important thing is that no one has to listen to discussion about viscous
coupler theory or driveshaft vibrations if they don't want to.  The net-net
is that I really don't think the "split" caused any attrition from the main
list - it just gave us Syncro owners the freedom to "dive deep" into the
minutiae of syncros without worrying about irritating non-Syncro owners.  I
expect the same would be true for Tiico owners.

BTW, if you want to hear about Subie conversions, Warren Chapman stared a
nice list on yahoo groups, on which I am a lurker.   I will probably be a
lurker on the Tiico list as well, once digest mode is supported. ;-)

Thanks for listening.


Brent Christensen
'89 GL Syncro Westy
Santa Barbara, CA

>From: "Barry E. Muller" <bmuller@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
>To: Brent Christensen <sbsyncro@HOTMAIL.COM>, vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Is it time for a Tiico list?
>Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:19:20 -0400
>
>Well,
>
>Personally I'd be much more interested in reading about subie-gons, tiico
>conversions and shoe-horning TDIs into our boxes than any of the
>mean-spirited crap that gets passed around on this list.  I dunno how many
>vanagons were sold in the US but this splitting off into separate groups
>everytime someone changes the color of their van isn't good IMHO.  Pretty
>soon everyone will have their own listserve.  Sorta like the the part in
>the
>Monty Python flick "Life of Brian": "What ever happened to the Popular
>Front
>of Judea , Reg?  - Oh, HE's sitting over there - bloody splitter!".
>
>Someday I may need/want to swap my engine and then this listserve will be
>the source, or not.
>
>bem the stem
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Brent Christensen <sbsyncro@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:17 PM
>Subject: Is it time for a Tiico list?
>
>
> > While I am interested in the information about engine swaps (I am
>subscribed
> > to the Subaruvanagon list, too), I find myself wondering if it might be
>the
> > time for there to be a separate Tiico list?    With the volume of
> > Tiico-related posts, and the general quantity of vanagon list mail in
> > general, it seems like this might make sense.
> >
> > Anyone else have comments or thoughts?
> >
> > Brent Christensen
> > '89 GL Syncro Westy
> > Santa Barbara, CA
>






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