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Date:         Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:51:33 -0400
Reply-To:     Maynard Southard <echomhs@GIS.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Maynard Southard <echomhs@GIS.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tiico and Diesel Bent Frame Rails
Comments: cc: "dieselvanagon@HOTMAIL.COM" <dieselvanagon@HOTMAIL.COM>

The Frame Rails on my '86 Diesel Double Cab are different than those on my '82 Diesel Vanagons. The mounts are different also. There is no "strap" that goes under the oil pan from mount to mount as there are on my '82s. I haven't checked the E T K A, but I'm pretty sure this is stock for '86. I don't know when they changed to this setup.

Maynard Southard (OvO) '79 '86 Double Cab Diesel "Col. Potter" '82 Westy Diesel "Reinhardt" '82 Vanagon GL Diesel "Sluggo" '93 EV GL "Klinger" '00 Golf GLS TDI "WooHoo" '84 Jetta GL TD "Donor"

On Monday, June 10, 2002 3:08 PM, Dan Snow <dieselvanagon@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: > Matthew et al.- > > I was thinking about your tiico bent frame rail problem while I was under my > diesel yesterday. I have a few questions: > > 1. Are the mounts for the Tiico the same as those in the diesel? > > 2. Are they similar? > > 3. On the tiico, is there a steel strap that passes under the oil pan and > connects the left and right mounts? (I think it is in tension, and I think > it keeps the mounts from rotating or separating relative to each other at > the bottom of the engine.) > > 4. I could draw a diagram or something. This is an easy part to toss or > neglect--it may look like a piece of the throwaway tin, but I think it > serves a structural purpose. Here is a poor attempt at ascii art, looking at > the back of the van underneath: > > | | | | MOTOR | | | | > | | |_|_______________|_| | | > | | l. mount r. mount | | > |___| strap |___| > > As I said, poor art. But the two mounts have things that drop down a little > and the strap bolts to the drops. > > 5. Maybe adding the strap would be an easy fix for your Tiico woes. My guess > is that if this steel strap isn't in the Tiico kit, it is because the South > African frame rails are beefier than ours and they can handle the torsion. > But you guys may be installing a mounting system on flimsier US model V-gon > frames. Just speculation. > > > > Daniel Snow > > '82 Vanagon Diesel > '78 Puch Maxi Luxe Moped > '01 Xootr Scooter > http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/snow/vanagon/vanagon.html


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