Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:03:12 -0400
Reply-To: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject: Re: Canadians beware! UPS are a bunch of crooks
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Didn't make sense to refuse the package, it was another
listee that sold me the item and didn't know about UPS's
scam. I would probably end up loosing the original $42
shipping and it would still have to get sent back to me...
too much trouble. Better to just pay the fee and warn the
list (AGAIN). Hopefully it will save someone else from
getting burned like me.
Thanks,
Chris
---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:52:18 -0700
>From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
>Subject: Re: Canadians beware! UPS are a bunch of crooks
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>Chris,
>Didn't UPS call you to ask you who is your customs broker?
They do this for
>me. I have a standard answer for them: "send it back to
the shipper, I
>refuse the package" - they'll f___ you in the ear if they
can. I never
>never get stuff sent via UPS and it is also on my account
to refuse all
>collect shipments. They have a long record of bad things
from me!
>
>For those who are sending stuff to Canada or Canadians
sending stuff to the
>USA I recommend that you use the Post Office. XpressPost
in Canada is much
>cheaper than UPS and it is the same speed and it is
traceable. The customer
>on the other end doesn't get dinged for brokerage fees (no
escaping taxes
>thought unless you lie on the customs form - tisk tisk).
Same as shipments
>from the USA - Expedited service is the way to send
something - Purolator
>will deliver it to your door step!
>
>They (UPS and Fed-Ex) will tell you that they are not a
government run
>service like the post office and there for have to charge
the 'real' cost of
>the customs service. Here is a piece of information for
you all - Canada
>Post is NOT owned by the Canadian Government - they are
owned by Purolator
>Currior and Purolator Currior does the customs stuff (same
as UPS or Fed-Ex
>would be doing) - this is why XpressPost packages are quick
and traceable as
>they are sent with the Purolator Courior packages and the
discount comes
>from the "you have to pick it up at the Post Office / Mail
Box" service
>level as opposed to a human handing it to you.
>
>Also, YOU can personally clear the package.
>
>David Marshall
>
>Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
>4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
>Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
>
>http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca
>Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List
[mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
>Of 80 Westy Pokey
>Sent: June 7, 2002 6:18 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Canadians beware! UPS are a bunch of crooks
>
>
>I have been on this rant before but I just got burned again
>and I have to vent.
>
>I just got a rear facing seat from an 82 Westy, and because
>of a miscomunication the seller ended up sending the item
>UPS. The cost for the seat was about $58 US, UPS shipping
was
>$42. The shipping in itself was not the end of it...
>
>UPS charged me $37.45 Canadian / $24.32 US in brokerage
>fees... this is over and above any customs charges and duty.
>So the total shipping charge from UPS is a whopping $102.13
>Canadian or $66.32 US. Fedex does the same thing. This is
why
>I NEVER use these jerks.
>
>Canada Post charges a flat $5 fee over an above duty or 87%
>less than UPS in this case.
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
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