Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:55:24 -0500
Reply-To: "joe@cedar.net" <joe@CEDAR.NET>
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From: "joe@cedar.net" <joe@CEDAR.NET>
Subject: Re: Official Vanagon maintenance, FAQ and much more Web site,
like www.vwvans.com
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I have hosting capacity available for non-profit sites such as
this. Please let me know how I can help.
I own an ISP.
Joe Kletch
Cedarnet LLC
On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Ben huot wrote:
> www.vwvans.com
>
> Ed DeBolt (from the list) made me a proposition about using this official
> domain name, he owns the www.vwvans.com but he is the only one paying for
> it.
>
> (((((((Updade from today the 17 Of june from Ed:
> I think I could serve up the vwvans.com site for free. turns out we have a
> unix server doing light duty. Its just doing back up DNS service.. might
> have to move it after a year or so if the site is high high traffic. Also I
> have already paid for the domain for 2 yrs so
> would be no cost for at least a year))))
>
> I (Ben) won't be able to keep forever my personal page at the same place,
> the main page is on a personal page server with my Cable connection
> company, and they suck lately.
>
> I also bought a functioning 1.9L for $300 CAD (I should pick this one up
> this week), my winter project (if I can wait) will be to disassemble this
> engine and rebuilt this one. I will take at least 50-100 pictures of the
> procedure and would do a big section on that.
>
> Well, what I mean is those who would consider sharing the fee and having a
> official web side that everybody here could participate. To participate you
> only need "Word 97, 2000" or any other kind of text tool and some photo
> software tool (optional, picture could be sent by mail). I and/or others
> would gladly do the HTML conversion.
>
> I am sure that many here could help maintaining the web site also.
>
> There would not be any Forum or mailing list of course; the vanagon mailing
> list server would be the official one. The web site would be a completion
> of the vanagon mailing list server. I know, there is Vanagon.com,
> westfalia.org, but I feel that a more lively and often updated web site
> would be nice.
>
> It's not that I don't have the web-space to host more stuff but its getting
> scattered on different server.
>
> It would be nice to accommodate many different web pages under one official
> web name from many people, one official guy would gather all info and only
> one person would upload the new update, many webmaster(or not so webmaster)
> could participate.
>
> We need some kind of membership, just so we can manage the $$$ of it.
> All members would be officially listed on the site with all links to their
> official personal web page (if needed).
>
> Update: we don't really need money for now but we would need help and
> suggestion.
>
> The cost:
> Yearly price of $99 USD would provide for 300 mgs (a lot more than we need
> for now) of storage and 20 gigs or transfer a month.
>
> If the site really takes off then we could acquire the hardware and serve
> it off Ed's network or perhaps someone elses net.
>
> Even at $200 per year, it's $16 per month, divided by 20 guys it's less
> than 1$ each per month.
>
> Here how I see the structure of this site.
>
> -Avery good "Flash Animation intro" (a guy on the road having some cooling
> problem) he he he.
>
> -A very nice, comprehensive, colorful, and cute main page reflecting the
> Vanagon owners.
> -Covering of all engine, Air and wasser 1.9L & 2.1L.
> -Technical engine related section, divided by theme. Covering all main
> subjects
> -Technical Body related section, divided by theme. Covering all main
> subjects
> -Body Electrical section, divided by theme. Covering all main subjects
> -Engine Electrical section, divided by theme. Covering all main subjects
> -Camper section including modification.
> -General info section
> -fun section
> -a private section for paying member with password (money stuff)
> -FAQ section (the biggest one ever)
> -A very big link section to official VW site, various parts dealers and so
> on (USA, Canada, Mexico, international)
> -link section to personal pages
> -link section to travel destination ? campground (USA, Canada, Mexico,
> international)
> -Link section to Mechanics Listing, (USA, Canada, Mexico, international)
>
> These are only suggestions; by all mean I don't want to be the only one in
> that project. If at least 20/30 person (ladies and gentlemen) have the will
> to do a project like that, I am in at 100% with my $2/5 a month.
>
> Any suggestion or comment!
>
> Any of you who want to participate ($ or time) please p-mail me and I will
> compile all name and details. For all other suggestion, please put them on
> this thread, keep this thread alive. I would suggest a minimum $2 per
> month, when we reach the amount per year (about $100 USD) we would stop
> demanding money. We can also form an official club with one treasurer. All
> that is too help the VW community. If you have any comment on how and by
> who the money should be manage, do so.
>
> Like mentioned above, the www.vwvans.com is fully paid by Ed, he can also
> host the name for a year or more but I fell that he shouldn't be the only
> one to pay for that!!!
>
> I will give the work I done so far to this community, and that, for ever.
> Can some of you guys do the same (Give some of your time, knowledge,
> advise, info and so on). We could create a hotmail e-mail for that purpose.
> So any member can see all info coming in, or something like that.
>
> Basically these are only suggestions, do you have some?
>
> We won't do that only by our selves. If we have 10-20 replies under this
> thread, everything is possible.
>
> Ben & Ed
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/huotx/engine1.htm (for now)
>
> ps.: here is an example of the flash animation I (or others who know Flash
> product) could do: http://www.letambourin.com
>
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