Date:         Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:45:59 -0700
Reply-To:     Rolf Hastrup <rhastrup@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Rolf Hastrup <rhastrup@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: ES-12 Substitute for Freon R-12 or R-134a
Comments: cc: Jeff Hammerstrom <speakerdesign@msn.com>
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--- Jeff Hammerstrom <speakerdesign@msn.com> wrote:
> Let me know how the ES-12 is working for you after you do another vehicle. I
> need to do something with my '90 Camper and I too looked into R-134 and had
> decided to go with R-12 because of the lower perssure and better performance
> but if this looks better it could save some $. One thing worries me though,
> their "free electricity" that they expect people to pay $2000 for. This
> looks like a scam, perpetual motion is a myth and this looks like b.s
> physics to me.
> Thanks,
> Jeff H
>
Jeff,

They are not suggesting free electricity, nor charging high prices.  I don't
see any magic here, just a far superior product that I'm very happy to have
discovered.  The ES-12 is simply more efficient than either R-12 or R-134a,
more compatible, safer for the environment, and costs no more (maybe less) than
R-134a - probably less for charging a given system because less is required.
Their price for a case of 12 cans is $75, and I needed only 2 cans to fill my
Taurus system after sucking it out with a vacuum pump.  They also sell smaller
quantities and ship FREE!  I suggest you check out the web site
<http://www.btt.org> or call the toll-free number (800 266-7777).  They market
all types of refrigerants and have specs for comparison.

=====
Rolf
'85 Westy Auto (doing Tiico conversion)
'88, 95 Taurus Wagons
'87 Jetta GLI

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