Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 06:23:29 -0500
Reply-To: wilden1@JUNO.COM
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From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: [WetWesties] General Warning for Newbies
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There is only one plug that properly drains this manual transmission and
its under the ring and pinion.
The fluid I got out of this tranny after it sat in my storage room for
five years was about like 10 wt motor oil, it would barley cling to your
finger enough to make a drop.
I never could get the drain plug out and I know they didn't get out
either.
I've got a lot of Automotive War stories since I started driving in 1956
but I wanted to relay this one story because these trannys are getting
harder to find and more expensive.
Stan Wilder
On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 02:31:04 -0400 "Dan Stevens" <dstevens@twcny.rr.com>
writes:
> very good news.. most if not all quick lube places are accustomed to
> draining (suctioning) and filling thru the same plug.. I worked at
> an oil
> change back in HS in 1988 and common teaching was just 1 plug, they
> really
> don't know 'all' trannies and some non-descript plug could nad has
> shown to
> be a reverse detent or someother non-draining important device..
>
> learn your vanagon and ask with the authority that you know whats
> under
> there but would rather pay someone else to do the service 80)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wilden1@juno.com [mailto:wilden1@juno.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:57 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Cc: wetwesties@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WetWesties] General Warning for Newbies
>
>
> When I bought my 83 Westy in 1995 the first thing I did was change
> the
> oil and filter also had the grease in the manual transmission
> grease
> changed.
> Turns out that the oil installed was 10/30 wt and when they changed
> the
> transmission grease I let them purge or clean the transmission with
> solvent.
> The important fact in this statement is that they never removed the
> drain
> plug from the pinion end of the transmission. So in effect I was
> running
> some mix of Transmission Grease and solvent until the 3/4
> synchronizer
> failed within 30 days. It failed in less than 1000 miles.
> Strange how we discover things as years go by but I opened this
> tranny up
> (today) to investigate with the intent of replacing the 3/4 slider
> and
> synchronizers. There was apparently no other damage to the
> transmission
> so I proceeding to install a rebuild kit I got from Long
> Engineering.
> This is just a word of caution from a Westy driver with a parked
> Westy
> waiting 45 days for a decent used tranny.
> If you're going to have somebody else change your transmission
> grease and
> you can't get under the vehicle to check what comes out of the
> tranny
> ............. ask them to see the drain plug. It wouldn't be a bad
> idea
> to ask them to see both the fill and drain plugs.
> Don't be surprised if it has a little fuzz on the magnet, this is
> common
> on well used transmissions.
>
> Stan Wilder
> 83 Air Cooled Westfalia
>
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