Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:12:18 -0700
Reply-To: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: Re: ES-12 Substitute for Freon R-12 or R-134a
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Just a clarification. The illegal part of R-12 is only for the
production and sale of "new" R-12. You can still get your R-12 system
charged by using 'recycled' R-12.
As you would expect with the law of supply and demand, the price for
R-12 has risen steadily. Which is the main reason people consider
changing to an alternative refrigerant.
regards,
Todd
'88 Westy
Rolf Hastrup wrote:
>Steve,
>
>I believe all Vanagons sold in the US with factory air used a freon (R-12)
>system. The connecting fittings for servicing would have 1/4" male hose
>threads with dust caps screwed on. If it is an R-134 system or was
converted
>to R-134, it would have the R-134 service fittings or adapters, which
are a
>quick-connect type (male nipple for receiving a quick-connect female
hose end).
> Manufacture and sale of R-12 freon is no longer legal, and R-134 type
adapters
>are required by EPA regulation whenever an R-12 freon systen is
converted to an
>approved refrigerant such as R-134 or ES-12. I hope this helps.
>
>Rolf
>
>
>--- Steve Johnson <stevej@wb32tv.com> wrote:
>
>>How can I tell what is in my AC system now?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve Johnson
>>' 91 Carat
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rolf Hastrup [SMTP:rhastrup@YAHOO.COM]
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 2:46 PM
>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>Subject: Re: ES-12 Substitute for Freon R-12 or R-134a
>>
>>A far superior product that I'm very happy to have discovered.
>>The ES-12 is simply more efficient than either R-12 or R-134a,
>>more compatible, safer for the environment, and costs no more (maybe
less)
>>than
>>R-134a - probably less for charging a given system because less is
required.
>>Their price for a case of 12 cans is $75, and I needed only 2 cans to
fill my
>>Taurus system after sucking it out with a vacuum pump. They also sell
>>smaller
>>quantities and ship FREE! I suggest you check out the web site
>><http://www.btt.org> or call the toll-free number (800 266-7777). They
>>market
>>all types of refrigerants and have specs for comparison.
>>
>>=====
>>Rolf
>>'85 Westy Auto (doing Tiico conversion)
>>'88, 95 Taurus Wagons
>>'87 Jetta GLI
>>
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