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Date:         Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:08:56 -0500
Reply-To:     wilden1@JUNO.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Humid Air - Some Comments
Comments: To: FrankGRUN@AOL.COM
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Darn Frank! that thing below is wonderful. I thought that the Mr. Wizard series of books was out of print but I see you've secured a set to work from.

Stan

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:45:46 EDT Frank Grunthaner <FrankGRUN@AOL.COM> writes: > What a great day for culture on the list! Avogadro's number and > Vanagon in > the same dissertation! There is hope for our society yet. Even the > mere > mention of the mole was gave a tingle in the cranium surprisingly > similar to > an ounce of Cointreau on ice. > > Nonetheless, Stan, Ed and Arlan are all quite correct ... humid air > is less > dense than dry. Also, the extraction or heat transfer ability of the > flowing > gas is related primarily to temperature and secondarily to velocity > , then to > turbulence and finally to macroscopic porosity or surface area per > unit areal > dimension. > > However, this is not the case when the water has not been fully > atomized. > Small water droplets (can range from nanoclusters to sub-mm > aerosols) offer > the ability to volatilize (get to use the heat of vaporization). > This can > significantly enhance net thermal transport and reduce chamber > detonation. > Taken to the extreme, a thin layer of water (2 to 4 monolayers) on > the > radiator surface at the turbulent air boundary will give superb heat > transfer > . Of course, one needs to keep the water film thickness below the > level where > the bulk thermal conductivity of the water would dominate. Such > thickness > control is generally beyond the ability of most practitioners of > the > automotive arts! > > BTW a thin film of Cointreau would work wonderfully as well; what a > fine > aroma, but what a waste. > > Have a chemically interesting day! > > Frank Grunthaner >

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