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Date:         Sat, 29 Jun 2002 23:31:10 EDT
Reply-To:     FrankGRUN@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Frank Grunthaner <FrankGRUN@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Rostra All-Electronic Cruise Control
Comments: To: Vwcrewman@aol.com
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In a message dated 6/28/02 6:14:54 PM, Vwcrewman writes:

<< Could you expand a little on the mfa installation into a Vanagon ,I'd wondered about it and was sure some one most have done it.

thanx in advance VWCREWMAN >> Well,

I don't have the finger energy to go into too much detail but a few comments:

1. Go after the instrument cluster from the Jetta GLi or the GTi. Plentiful before the Digifant cars. Also get the MFA/wiper switch for operation.

2. The cluster will contain the tach and the MFA module, while the PC foil will also go to the oil buzzer system and the Hall sensor in the Jetta speedo.

3. If you are running an I4 conversion, Pop the tach into your gauge cluster. Little ingenuity to swap plastic bits but nothing daunting.

4. Pop out the cover in the Vanagon Speedo and insert the Hall sensor. In the end, I just swapped the foil from the Jetta to the Vanagon cluster. Different connectors but that is what copper staples and tantalum foil contacts are ideal for. The Bentley color code wiring is straightforward if you take careful note of the year, model and vin number of the donor vehicle. (If you can't find the wiring diagram I can send a copy. The price is one fresh wheel of Alsacian Muenster!)

5. The LCD module for the clock and the MFA have the same form factor so it will eventually pop right in (after step 6). BTW, all the various clocks from the Jetta/Golf group (at least the A2 cars) all use the same clock module.

6. Now you will notice that the circuit board around the tach has a spur that supports the MFA. Take out your trusty Dremel tool and slice it off. The LCD side is the important one. Get the board shape into the same form as the Vanagon clock so it will fit in the plastic instrument cluster. Now look at the tach side. Lots of space just filled with traces (no components) so slice it off.

7. Now bond the ends of the traces to the board with a good insulating epoxy. Next drill small holes into the board and trace (clearing a small area of the trace) and solder a jumper wire to each. Remember the board has front and back traces (2 sided). Don't miss any. Now there is no significant current here , so I used a ribbon multiconductor cable maybe 24 gauge here. Rosin core solder. Then, after verifying contact, reseal with the insulating epoxy.

8. Soldering the jumper to the MFA board segment is a PITA, but worth it if another Vanagonite just happens to notice that you are checking MPG with the clock cluster. I used about 9 inches of ribbon cable.

9. Anyway from there on its just details! Of course, the devil is in the details.

10. Unfortunately, the A2 cars use a Vacuum/rpm/vehicle speed algorithm to calculate MPG. Don't really measure it. I've switched to a computer that measures the fuel injector duty cycle for fuel consumption just like the Motronic cars. But that, as someone else has said, is another story.

Gotta go,

Good luck,

Frank Grunthaner


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