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Date:         Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:31:58 -0700
Reply-To:     lamusicamellama@JUNO.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Les Shiaman <lamusicamellama@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      my quest for a westy
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Hello Listees -

I would like to buy the latest model I can find within my range (<10k). Here is my latest find:

87 Westy. 169k mi. on orig. 2.1 motor. Manual tranny rebuilt 9 years ago (was stuck in 3rd). Clutch seems ok. This is the no a/c model. I drove it and the power seems good and steady, not what I would expect from a 15 year old van with 169,000 miles. Cosmetically -- ok ( a large dent on propane side, not too noticable, interior has the used look i.e. dents and scrapes, smokers stains and odor). I'm mainly concerned with the power plant. After getting beneath and a bit greasy I mentioned my observations to the owner about 1) Oil covering right head cover, 2) Green coolant. She fessed up with a pre-purchase check she had done on her own. She said she used Prestone coolant and hardly ever changed it (!) She even gave me a copy of the check-up paper by a reliable local shop. Here's the news:

Pop-top weather stripping unglued (no biggie) Front brake pads at 50% Rear shoes at 50% Rear wheel cylinder leak Exhaust system rusty Front exhaust pipe cracked Valve cover gaskets leak (I noticed quite a bit of oil covering the right valve cover) Coolant leak (yikes!) - right rear head flange

Compression numbers: 1) 130, 2) 140, 3) 130, 4) 135

I figure I would need to drop a large sum of money. Maybe even put in a new engine. So $5,000 in repairs my first few months of ownership would be likely. She's asking $8,850, but mentioned she would drop to $7,000. She later said she would let it go for that. I don't know what this list's concensus is, but I'm thinking a lot lower. Is it really unreasonable to expect to pay 3-4 thousand for a 15 year old van that needs engine overhaul/replacement? Maybe it's all about the vanagon/westy mystique.

Thanks for any advice. BTW I am in northern California. Will be travelling soon to LA for a couple of weeks, and looking there for westies probably, undoubtedly, as I am obsessed with these vans!

Les Trek 800

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