Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:07:22 -0400
Reply-To: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject: Repost: Aircooled vanagon acceptable oil temperature / timing
problem?
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I am posting this again because I only got one reply and
Gerry seems to have been having problems lately:
This weekend's hot weather pushed my oil temperature to 250F
to 275F. I didn't run her long last night, but I did notice
that the 12 O'Clock position on the gauge is 210F, so
although my 250F to 275F is hot... I think Adam's 110C to
115C is not right. What is that in Farienheit? Bus Boys gauge
page:
http://www.bus-boys.com/bbvdo.htm
Says: "Acceptable Oil Temp reading should be between 190 to
210 degrees, depending the ambient temperature. 72-83 Buses
and Vanagons tend to run a little on the warmer side, so an
external oil cooler may be needed to bring the temp in-line."
Adam has suggested my high oil temperature could be a timing
problem... can anyone elaborate?
Thanks,
Chris
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: Aux Oil Cooler install...results Aircooled
>vanagon
>>
>>
>>> It was REALLY hot and humid here this weekend and I was
>>> moving my fiance's stuff to our new apartment so it was a
>bit
>>> of a heavy load. I was trying to take it easy but this
post
>>> scares me a bit since I am sure my oil temp gauge was
>reading
>>> 250 to 275 this weekend. I am pretty sure it measures in
F
>or
>>> C but at 275 it hardly matters. Is 110C to 115C really
low
>>> or is 250 / 275 really high?
>>
>>
>>REALLY HIGH on both instances...........
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Where are you measuring oil temp from (mine is from the
>sump
>>> plate)?
>>
>>Same location..VDO sender.
>>
>>
>>What grade oil are you using?
>>
>>20w50, but am planning on swapping to straight 40 for summer
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Interestingly enough Cylinder Heads temperature was on the
>>> low side (Maybe 200F). Maybe my gauges and senders are
>messed
>>> up is there any way to check?
>>
>>Something may be up with timing ......
>>
>>
>> Either way I am buying an
>>> external oil cooler.
>>
>>
>>They are the ticket, put it realy was a pain to
>install..........I would buy
>>a whole unit from Hayden inc made out of steel......
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> ---- Original message ----
>>> >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:53:15 -0400
>>> >From: Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
>>> >Subject: Aux Oil Cooler install...results Aircooled
>vanagon
>>> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> >
>>> >Yesterday, I finally had a dry day to install my
auxiliary
>>> oil cooler from the Bus Boys. This was a very solid unit,
>>> and cost a little over $100 including mechanical
>thermostat,
>>> sandwich plate adapter, and lines/fittings. I bought some
>>> Rabbit radiator mounts (thanks vw mags) to mount the
cooler
>>> on. as well as some 90 degree fittings. I used a Hayden,
>>> Inc. transmission oil cooler fan in addition to this
that
>i
>>> found in a junkyard for free (this fan really puts out the
>>> air!)
>>> >
>>> >It took me about 4 hours to do, for i did not have much
>room
>>> to work.......The time consuming part was finding a good
>>> mounting place and actually mounting. I mounted above the
>>> transmission just behind where the engine tin stops. I
>wired
>>> the fan so that it turns on when the key is on, and off
>when
>>> not..........I was going to do a toggle switch, but knew I
>>> would forget one day to turn it off, so came up with this
>>> instead. The oil cooler is large, about 12"X10" and 3 "
>>> thick.....made of steel, so it is solid.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >here are the stats. Before the cooler, if i went 70-75
>mph
>>> in my part of the country (humid, and 90+ degrees out
side)
>>> for any length of time, my oil would hit 110C and probably
>>> hit 115C.so I had to go more like 60mph. My oil pressure
>>> would be more or less equal to my rpms(3800 rpm...38psi)
>and
>>> my heads would run between 300-350f.
>>> >
>>> >Now, And i drove ti hard yesterday, my oil temp is
around
>90-
>>> 95C, heads 275-325, and oil is up about 5-10
>lbs...........is
>>> this awesome or what? Definitely one of the best
>mechanical
>>> things I have done to my van.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Adam P
>>> >81 Westy "The Brick "
>>> >70 Single Cab "Whitey"
>>> >74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
>>> >73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
>>> >1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
>>> >75 Campmobile "for sale'
>>> >Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
>>>
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