Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 08:45:12 -0400
Reply-To: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
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From: 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
Subject: Aircooled vanagon acceptable oil temperature / timing problem?
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This weekend's hot weather pushed my oil temperature to 250F
to 275F. I didn't run her long last night, but I did notice
that the 12 O'Clock position on the gauge is 210F, so
although my 250F to 275F is hot... I think Adam's 110C to
115C is not right. What is that in Farienheit? Bus Boys gauge
page:
http://www.bus-boys.com/bbvdo.htm
Says: "Acceptable Oil Temp reading should be between 190 to
210 degrees, depending the ambient temperature. 72-83 Buses
and Vanagons tend to run a little on the warmer side, so an
external oil cooler may be needed to bring the temp in-line."
Adam has suggested my high oil temperature could be a timing
problem... can anyone elaborate?
Thanks,
Chris
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Aux Oil Cooler install...results Aircooled
vanagon
>
>
>> It was REALLY hot and humid here this weekend and I was
>> moving my fiance's stuff to our new apartment so it was a
bit
>> of a heavy load. I was trying to take it easy but this post
>> scares me a bit since I am sure my oil temp gauge was
reading
>> 250 to 275 this weekend. I am pretty sure it measures in F
or
>> C but at 275 it hardly matters. Is 110C to 115C really low
>> or is 250 / 275 really high?
>
>
>REALLY HIGH on both instances...........
>
>
>>
>> Where are you measuring oil temp from (mine is from the
sump
>> plate)?
>
>Same location..VDO sender.
>
>
>What grade oil are you using?
>
>20w50, but am planning on swapping to straight 40 for summer
>
>
>>
>> Interestingly enough Cylinder Heads temperature was on the
>> low side (Maybe 200F). Maybe my gauges and senders are
messed
>> up is there any way to check?
>
>Something may be up with timing ......
>
>
> Either way I am buying an
>> external oil cooler.
>
>
>They are the ticket, put it realy was a pain to
install..........I would buy
>a whole unit from Hayden inc made out of steel......
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>> >Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 06:53:15 -0400
>> >From: Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
>> >Subject: Aux Oil Cooler install...results Aircooled
vanagon
>> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> >
>> >Yesterday, I finally had a dry day to install my auxiliary
>> oil cooler from the Bus Boys. This was a very solid unit,
>> and cost a little over $100 including mechanical
thermostat,
>> sandwich plate adapter, and lines/fittings. I bought some
>> Rabbit radiator mounts (thanks vw mags) to mount the cooler
>> on. as well as some 90 degree fittings. I used a Hayden,
>> Inc. transmission oil cooler fan in addition to this that
i
>> found in a junkyard for free (this fan really puts out the
>> air!)
>> >
>> >It took me about 4 hours to do, for i did not have much
room
>> to work.......The time consuming part was finding a good
>> mounting place and actually mounting. I mounted above the
>> transmission just behind where the engine tin stops. I
wired
>> the fan so that it turns on when the key is on, and off
when
>> not..........I was going to do a toggle switch, but knew I
>> would forget one day to turn it off, so came up with this
>> instead. The oil cooler is large, about 12"X10" and 3 "
>> thick.....made of steel, so it is solid.
>> >
>> >
>> >here are the stats. Before the cooler, if i went 70-75
mph
>> in my part of the country (humid, and 90+ degrees out side)
>> for any length of time, my oil would hit 110C and probably
>> hit 115C.so I had to go more like 60mph. My oil pressure
>> would be more or less equal to my rpms(3800 rpm...38psi)
and
>> my heads would run between 300-350f.
>> >
>> >Now, And i drove ti hard yesterday, my oil temp is around
90-
>> 95C, heads 275-325, and oil is up about 5-10
lbs...........is
>> this awesome or what? Definitely one of the best
mechanical
>> things I have done to my van.
>> >
>> >
>> >Adam P
>> >81 Westy "The Brick "
>> >70 Single Cab "Whitey"
>> >74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
>> >73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
>> >1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
>> >75 Campmobile "for sale'
>> >Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
>>
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