Date:         Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:01:52 -0700
Reply-To:     Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
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From:         Fryday <fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Running on Tap Water (was Re: Attention California
              Vanagonites)
Comments: To: David Brodbeck <gull@cyberspace.org>
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> This has to be a scam.  Yeah, you can electrolyse water to get hydrogen
> and oxygen, and you can run an engine on that, no problem.  The problem is
> you have to put in at least as much energy to do the electrolysis as you
> get back when you burn it, because when you burn it, the end product
> is...WATER.

Well, yes, that's what it would seem, I guess. However why would this guy just
 make his 100 engines and send them to all the countries if it's a scam? What
 would be the point of that? And why work on it for 30 years?

My friend, who knows him very well, has driven the car, seen that it had no
 gas, seen the electrolysis chamber where the water was put. A flame was put
 next to the open container without explosion, it didn't smell like gaz (since
 it was water), and he showed the engine stopping when you disconnect the
 hydrogen line to the engine, etc, etc. He's been basically running his car on
 tap water for the past 5 years. That means NO REFUELLING WHATSOEVER.

Seems that his trade secret is in the electrolysis plates that he uses, which
 allow him to basically extract the hydrogen more easily than at combustion
 time.

A bientot,

Philippe