Date:         Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:46:03 -0700
Reply-To:     mike <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
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From:         mike <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Subject:      Re: Running on Tap Water
Comments: To: David Brodbeck <gull@cyberspace.org>
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True the energy has to come from some generating source.  But since the
water can be split when other energy users are mostly off line [usually the
middle of the night] you don't need as many energy producers/plants.  Other
advantages at source use as well.

Mike

> From: David Brodbeck <gull@CYBERSPACE.ORG>
> Reply-To: David Brodbeck <gull@CYBERSPACE.ORG>
> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:11:47 -0400
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Running on Tap Water
>
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Fryday wrote:
>
>> Well, isn't the whole point to find a process that is more efficient to
>>  separate the hydrogen from the oxygen than to put them back together?
>
> That can't happen.  It'd violate some pretty basic laws of physics.  It'd
> be like dropping a rubber ball and having it bounce higher than the height
> you dropped it from.  The energy has to *come* from somewhere.
>
>> Interesting. Does that mean that hydrogen fuel cells would be nothing more
>> than
>>  energy transfered from plants running on fossil or reusable energy?
>
> Yup.  That's why I'm so skeptical about them.  They have some of the same
> problems electric cars do -- at least where I live, that energy is going
> to be coming largely from a coal-fired power plant, probably resulting in
> more total pollution.
>
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