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Date:         Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:35:26 -0400
Reply-To:     David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Wobbly Still Won't Go... Gurus pleassssse heeellllllppppp...
Comments: To: Scott and Norma <scottandnormadesanti@GCI.NET>
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At 11:45 PM 7/17/2002, Scott and Norma wrote: >Well, > > Got under the Wobbly Bus after work today... here's what I checked. > > ECU Connector: > > Jumped pin 3 - 13 No pump action even cranking starter

This is inconsistent with next statement...if it's really true then you may have a bad fuel pump relay. Jumper from pin 30 to 87 of that relay -- pump should run continuously regardless of key position. If it doesn't, check voltage at pump -- should see 12v on one terminal and ground on the other.

> Checked pin 14 - 13 12v only when cranking starter

Sounds like bad 15 contact on ignition switch. When you turn the key to crank the 15 contact moves to another area of the switch, so it might well be making contact there and not in the regular position.

> Checked pin 14-19 No v when cranking > > Current Control Relay / Fuel Pump Relay > > No audible click from relays > No V at pin 87 of Digijet Control Relay (Bentley p97.89 > Pin 30 = 12v > Pin 86 = 0v (looks like connection from coil, Bentley >97.88)

Right here -- you must have +12v at coil and at pin 86 of Digifant relay when the key is on. If not then you have an open circuit coming from the coil or the ign switch, or bad ign switch. If you don't have 12v here then nothing will work.

> Question: The coil shows this input coming from the #15 voltage >source (gray area at top of page) > This is ignition switch output, right?

Yes, should be 12v with key on.

> I'll probably check that next. But the coil also shows >ground point 15 is right there as well... how > does that work?

That wire supplies the crankcase vent heater -- little heater in the tube btw the oil tower and the intake boot. It's the heater that's grounded at current track 15. The number is a coincidence.

> Any help appreciated. Will offer fresh salmon to person with right >info...frozen and shipped of course.

Use a jumper of some sort to supply power to the 15 circuit at the ign switch or at the fuse panel or at the coil. I bet it starts.

david

>Scott De Santi >Anchorage, Alaska >86 Vanagon 2WD (Wobbly Bus) >98 New Beetle 2.0 (2Gruvy)

-- David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation"


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