Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:53:35 -0500
Reply-To: minor35@JUNO.COM
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Bill Minor <minor35@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: WBX bashing
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John wrote: This is where a jackass like you buy a Vanagon.
Stan replies: I understand now what kind of individual needs five or six
end of life vehicles.
I ain't pickin on your little water pissers, I never mentioned any short
comings other than known to have problems.
Why would anybody want four or five of the same vehicle of any type
unless they're in the wrecking yard business.
If it were something collectable like a 55T Bird or Austin Healey I might
come closer to understanding.
Stan Wilder
83 Westy Air Cooled (Just the one with 300,000 miles on it)
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 04:38:50 +0000 Jfp w/2 wbxs <jfp7@HOTMAIL.COM>
writes:
> Hi Stan,
>
> thanx for your opinion but like others before you, your position is
> ripe
> with lots of technical ignorance. The 2.1L WBX has enjoyed as much
> as much
> as 1 million kilometers of VW testing and with required proper
> maintenance
> has proven it's unique design.
>
> Presently Vanagon list members deal with WBXs that are clearly at
> the end of
> their "Service life". Usually that means >10 years & 100K miles.
> Additionally these WBXs often have had "questionable" maintenance,
> especially regarding the all important coolant changes.
>
> In spite of admirable performance, the WBX at some point >100K
> mileage
> point, the engine will need some sort of major repair. This is where
> a
> jackass like you buy a Vanagon at bargain prices and then encounter
> the
> so-called well-known WBX "head gasket problem". Following this, the
> new WBX
> expert then pontificates on the lousy reliability of the WBX.
>
> The list tends to be a constant soap box for WBX technical experts
> like Stan
> who thinks that >100K miles wear-and-tear failures are simply
> unacceptable
> when compared to bloated cast-iron American V-8s.
>
> Stan is an excellent example of the guy who buys Vanagon at bargain
> prices,
> has a poor quality (cheap)head gasket repair performed and when the
> coolant
> leak reoccurs, the "expert" dictates that the WBX design is clearly
> the
> fault. The fact that our expert bought a light alloy motor at the
> end of
> it's service life at bargain prices seems to vanish.
>
> Stan, My unfortunate fleet sits side-by-side without leakage or
> problems.
> They start with a turn of the key because I have restored my WBXs to
> their
> originally designed functional level. In other words, I've restored
> the
> "service life" of the WBX.
>
> I'm really disappointed that you missed the intended, romantic
> beauty of my
> splitty message and concentrated on the perceived shortcomings of my
> WBX
> "fleet".
>
> Regards, John
>
>
>
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