Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:32:40 -0400
Reply-To: Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
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From: Vanagon man <vgonman@MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: Tiico - Welding Engine Mount
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Solid (welding) will not solve your problem, It will amplify it. Some folks
have solved the vibration, their solutions are in the archives.
I assure you that the Vanagons assembled in SA with the Tiico motor so not
vibrate. The factory installs the motor at the proper angle, and torques
the mounting points at the same time and thus the motor is balanced in
there............now no telling how yours was installed, but I assure you
that it was not in this manner.
I have been in drag vw's and other hot rods over the years that folks have
welded the motors to the frame............you can feel the vibration of the
motors..........not a bad think if you are drag racing a few minutes at a
time, but would get old quick in a daily driver. i believe the hot rodders
weld them in mainly so that when they step on the gas, they are pretty
confident they are not going to break some sort of urethane or rubber mount.
Adam P
81 Westy "The Brick "
70 Single Cab "Whitey"
74 Beetle "Ol Yeller"
73 Transporter (STILL at paint shop)
1988 Vanagon Wolfsburg
75 Campmobile "for sale'
Used Vanagon Parts for sale (mostly aircooled)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Krueger" <vanagon@DRKRU.COTSE.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Tiico - Welding Engine Mount
> For those wondering why weld, this is where I am coming from, but I could
> quite likely be wrong and would like to know if so.
>
> One of the most common complaints I've heard from other Tiico owners is
> that the vibration around 3000 RPMs (and noise) is bad. Now, I would not
> say that mine is bad, but definately noticable. I have heard that the big
> problem is with the engine supports, specificaly the left (drivers or port
> side) one. The left support is different from the right in that it has
> rubber mounts (am I wrong here?). Additionaly, other Tiico owners are
> noticing a problem with this mount bending at the frame. The proposed
> solution to both problems being to weld it solid. The specifics of this I
> do not know and thus was asking the list for them.
>
> From the archives, it appears that this mount, rather than reducing
> vibration, actually ampliphies it. The right support is solidly mounted,
so
> why not the left?
>
> Any further input is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Derek
>
>
> > Why weld it? Our TiiCo engine was floating around on too soft mounts
> > also. Basically we immobilized all 3 by cutting hard rubber to fit in
> > the gaps of the mounts, then jamming it in. The rubber came from a
> > replacement boat trailer roller gotten at a marine store.
> >
> > If you weld, it's very likely that you'll create a direct path to the
> > interior for big vibrations. Also, wouldn't welding burn the rubber
> > that's already in the mounts?
> >
> > Gary
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Derek Krueger" <vanagon@DRKRU.COTSE.NET>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:11 PM
> > Subject: Tiico - Welding Engine Mount
> >
> >
> >> Can some please post directions that I could give to a welder to have
> >> my engine mount welded solid? Or, is it as simple as telling him/her
> >> to weld the drivers side-rear solid?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Derek
>
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