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Date:         Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:33:00 -0700
Reply-To:     kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...
In-Reply-To:  <3D4FE84B.4EDB89F6@houston.rr.com>
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I didn't say I didn't want to preserve it....I was implying that a person should ask himself/herself if they are doing everything possible to limit the use of our enviro-damaging Vans BEFORE they post a message suggesting the measures another member should take.

We love our Vanagons...but they are NOT the perfect vehicle for enjoying the natural world...or preserving it....catalytic converter or none. I think our feet do alot less impact....

Kevin --- anthony kimmons <akimmons@HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote: > ditto, Bulley! > > ...Seems strange to me that someone who owns a van > that's perfect for > enjoying the > natural world would not want to spend a few bucks to > help preserve it...oh > well... > > -Tony > (new converter, and my van's not even being used > right now!) > > > > > > > "G. Matthew Bulley" wrote: > > > Kevin snidely writes: > > > > "With a comment like that I really hope you weigh > up every trip you make > > to the store, around town etc...so as not to burn > precious fossil fuels > > and pollute the air...not to mention your 2nd car > should be a electric > > hybrid...is it??? > > > > Am I to understand that Kevin is making light of > the air you or your > > kids breathe. > > > > Maybe in his area of the country they don't have > 80+ code orange ozone > > days a year. Maybe Kevin doesn't have kids who he > wants to grow up > > without repository allergies, asthma, or > bronchitis. > > > > Maybe Kevin doesn't know what it is like to go for > a 3 mile run and feel > > like shit afterward because the air is crap. > > > > Whatever, Kevin. > > > > If you are trying to imply that being concerned > about the environment we > > all share is trivial, I'll let you stew in your > own pudding. > > > > I'll err on the side of caution, and so I'll spend > an extra buck or two > > to take the train rather than drive. I'll replace > that catalytic > > converter when it fails. I'll walk to the grocer, > the doctor, the > > barber, and work at home rather than commuting. > > > > I wasn't asking for the moon; our Vanagons aren't > the most efficient in > > the world but with a little technology, they can > at least be clean. Just > > a little common decency for our fellow travelers. > > > > Whatever, Kevin, make snide comments and feel smug > in your ozone world. > > > > Pax-- > > > > G. Matthew Bulley > > Mount Olive, NC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > > Of kevin obrien > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:50 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter... > > > > Hey G. Mathew.... > > > > With a comment like that I really hope you weigh > up > > every trip you make to the store, around town > etc...so > > as not to burn precious fossil fuels and pollute > the > > air...not to mention your 2nd car should be a > electric > > hybrid...is it??? > > > > --- "G. Matthew Bulley" > <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM> > > wrote: > > > And then do the rest of us surface-dwellers a > favor > > > and spend the $100 > > > on a new catalytic converter. > > > > > > Developing business and guiding change since > 1996, > > > > > > G. Matthew Bulley > > > Bulley-Hewlett > > > Marketing & Communications > > > Business: www.bulley-hewlett.com > > > Phone: +1.919.658.1278 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List > > > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf > > > Of Matthew Pollard > > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:19 PM > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic > Converter... > > > > > > oxygen sensor bad = running rich > > > > > > running rich = more work for cat to do > > > > > > more work for cat = getting hot & melting, > > > literally. > > > > > > > > > unplug your oxygen sensor and see how you run. > > > better? if so, then > > > replace the oxygen sensor. if not change then > look > > > elsewhere. > > > matthew > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > > http://health.yahoo.com > > -- > > Anthony Kimmons, Houston Texas > http://www.akimmons.com

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