Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:33:00 -0700
Reply-To: kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: kevin obrien <kevindobrien@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...
In-Reply-To: <3D4FE84B.4EDB89F6@houston.rr.com>
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I didn't say I didn't want to preserve it....I was
implying that a person should ask himself/herself if
they are doing everything possible to limit the use of
our enviro-damaging Vans BEFORE they post a message
suggesting the measures another member should take.
We love our Vanagons...but they are NOT the perfect
vehicle for enjoying the natural world...or preserving
it....catalytic converter or none. I think our feet
do alot less impact....
Kevin
--- anthony kimmons <akimmons@HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote:
> ditto, Bulley!
>
> ...Seems strange to me that someone who owns a van
> that's perfect for
> enjoying the
> natural world would not want to spend a few bucks to
> help preserve it...oh
> well...
>
> -Tony
> (new converter, and my van's not even being used
> right now!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "G. Matthew Bulley" wrote:
>
> > Kevin snidely writes:
> >
> > "With a comment like that I really hope you weigh
> up every trip you make
> > to the store, around town etc...so as not to burn
> precious fossil fuels
> > and pollute the air...not to mention your 2nd car
> should be a electric
> > hybrid...is it???
> >
> > Am I to understand that Kevin is making light of
> the air you or your
> > kids breathe.
> >
> > Maybe in his area of the country they don't have
> 80+ code orange ozone
> > days a year. Maybe Kevin doesn't have kids who he
> wants to grow up
> > without repository allergies, asthma, or
> bronchitis.
> >
> > Maybe Kevin doesn't know what it is like to go for
> a 3 mile run and feel
> > like shit afterward because the air is crap.
> >
> > Whatever, Kevin.
> >
> > If you are trying to imply that being concerned
> about the environment we
> > all share is trivial, I'll let you stew in your
> own pudding.
> >
> > I'll err on the side of caution, and so I'll spend
> an extra buck or two
> > to take the train rather than drive. I'll replace
> that catalytic
> > converter when it fails. I'll walk to the grocer,
> the doctor, the
> > barber, and work at home rather than commuting.
> >
> > I wasn't asking for the moon; our Vanagons aren't
> the most efficient in
> > the world but with a little technology, they can
> at least be clean. Just
> > a little common decency for our fellow travelers.
> >
> > Whatever, Kevin, make snide comments and feel smug
> in your ozone world.
> >
> > Pax--
> >
> > G. Matthew Bulley
> > Mount Olive, NC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> > Of kevin obrien
> > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:50 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...
> >
> > Hey G. Mathew....
> >
> > With a comment like that I really hope you weigh
> up
> > every trip you make to the store, around town
> etc...so
> > as not to burn precious fossil fuels and pollute
> the
> > air...not to mention your 2nd car should be a
> electric
> > hybrid...is it???
> >
> > --- "G. Matthew Bulley"
> <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
> > wrote:
> > > And then do the rest of us surface-dwellers a
> favor
> > > and spend the $100
> > > on a new catalytic converter.
> > >
> > > Developing business and guiding change since
> 1996,
> > >
> > > G. Matthew Bulley
> > > Bulley-Hewlett
> > > Marketing & Communications
> > > Business: www.bulley-hewlett.com
> > > Phone: +1.919.658.1278
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> > > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> > > Of Matthew Pollard
> > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:19 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: Re: Revisiting the Catalytic
> Converter...
> > >
> > > oxygen sensor bad = running rich
> > >
> > > running rich = more work for cat to do
> > >
> > > more work for cat = getting hot & melting,
> > > literally.
> > >
> > >
> > > unplug your oxygen sensor and see how you run.
> > > better? if so, then
> > > replace the oxygen sensor. if not change then
> look
> > > elsewhere.
> > > matthew
> >
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> --
>
> Anthony Kimmons, Houston Texas
> http://www.akimmons.com
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